24 Hours of G & T: Hours 16 & 17
24 Hours of G & T: Hours 16 & 17 is now available to download. Check it out here. After a bit of a delay, this hour they are joined by Marc Cushman, while Kirsten Beyer continues to hang out with us. They give away the Star Trek: Costumes: Fifty Years of fashion from the Final Frontier by Terry Erdmann and Paula M. Block with an autographed poster of the cover. Deyvid from Trek Radio continues hanging out in the studio.
We return from break with the announcement that we got a new donation. After some deliberation, we decide to give away a copy of the Star Trek Costumes book by our friends Terry Erdmann and Paula M. Block with an autographed poster of the cover. We talk about meeting Terry and Paula and Doug Drexler and his wife in Vegas with Kirsten. We follow the temporal anomaly called Daylight Savings Time as it continues to roll across the country.
Mike nearly forgot that they had a guest lined up for this hour. While he works to get Skype working and Marc into the call, Nick tells Kirsten about the G & T bump. They talk about The Martian momentarily before Mike interrupts the conversation to check on Marc, but technical difficulties prevented him. Kirsten shares watching the film while her husband and daughter watched another film. Allen and Kirsten discuss the cuts they made to the book for the film. Mike cuts in with Marc Cushman. Introductions are made.
We spend a few a minutes telling Marc about our progress thus far and try to figure out what hour we are on. Nick hasn’t had a shot in a while. Marc is in the mountains writing. He’s putting the finishing touches on the final book in a two volume set about Irwin Allen, including his work on Lost In Space. He busted a bit of Star Trek lore. Allen had not pitched Lost In Space yet when Gene Roddenberry was there to pitch Star Trek for the first time to CBS.
Mike talks about the launch of Comet TV featuring content from Science Fiction and Fantasy content from MGM and Sinclair Broadcasting. Marc talks about the idea we had about a general genre channel. Marc is still interested. Nick tells Kirsten that Marc wrote These Are The Voyages book set about the making of Star Trek TOS as well as the writer of the episode Sarek.
Once he finishes the Irwin Allen books, he’s going to pick up on the fourth Volume of Star Trek which will cover Star Trek from the time of its cancellation through the signing of the contracts for TNG. He has the documents for the first season of TNG, so he may decide to do a volume on that for 2017. If it wasn’t for Voyage and Lost In Space and their success, there wouldn’t have been a Star Trek. Irwin was the guy that stuck his head out first. His shows turned bad whenever he listened to the networks. Gene, on the other hand, fought the network. In the 60s and 70s, Quinn Martin and Irwin Allen were moguls for their time, since they were some of the few and first producers to have multiple shows running at the same time, which is a common occurrence today.
A question from Facebook comes in asking if Marc had found Mr. McCartney. He shares a humorous story about a woman stalking Paul McCartney for a reality film he launched called Desperately Seeking Paul McCartney. The film was about fan obsession and the behind the scenes manipulation of reality tv. They talk about obsession and the Beetles. Marc brings it back to Star Trek. It’s the right combination of people at the right time is what made Star Trek so successful. He talks about some of the inspiration for Star Trek’s themes in their most memorable episodes, including: Spock’s Brain and Balance of Terror.
Kirsten experienced some technical difficulties. Nick talks about the discussion earlier in the fundraiser with Kirsten about the inability for political parties to talk to each other and how it became a theme in her trilogy. Marc praises her for doing it her books. Star Trek uses science fiction as means to comment on the events of the day. Terry and Allen have reached the Braga Hour and are in the midst of their temporal anomaly. Nick says he will drink two 5 hour energy drinks for a $200 donation. Nick and Terry fills Marc in on some of the highlights of the show while Mike tries to resolve Kirsten’s technical issues. They start talking about Marc’s favorite Halloween Star Trek episodes, when Mike returns with Kirsten.
Kirsten talks about the theme she used in her trilogy. Marc sees it a differently. They discuss their respective point of views on the theme. We discuss the political leanings of several of the series. Terry and Allen tried to do math to figure out how long we’ve been on the air and how long we have left and failed. Kirsten comments on how the original series was able to build tension by watching the characters on the bridge as the ticking clock counted down. It’s something that just wouldn’t work in today’s television shows. Marc talks about it uses the Corbonite Manuever as an example. He goes on to explain that too much money thrown into a film will often make it worse than better. Kirsten mentions an article she had seen about the death of mid-level films, since Hollywood seems more interested in either making Big Budge Blockbusters or low budget Indie films.
Terry talks about Adam, the owner of Trek Core and his vist to their house. During his vist, they watched the original theatrical release of Star Wars. The film was very slow by today’s standards. Something happened in the 90s that changed the way people consume. Nick thinks it needs to go back to further to the 80s. JJ may have called Star Trek a talkie geekfest, but the reality is that Star Trek is about characters. Marc talks about Into Darkness and how these shows have become more like cartoons that blurs the lines between Star Trek and other superhero film franchises.
Deyvid talks about some of the differences in modern film making compared to films from several years ago, where they established a continuity, showing a car driving from point a to point b. Now, they just jump straight to them arriving. Marc talks about how people’s attention spans are decreasing and more and more information is being flooded at them. He talks about the Doomsday Machine. The moments of the episode he enjoys the most isn’t the effects, but the moment when Spock confronts William Holden’s character about what happened to his ship and crew. The best moments are about the character and the emotion within the moment. Kirsten chimes in on the topic. There are formulas for how problems are solved, but what is important is how it is solved. Writers today have to show their work. Marc talks about Wrath of Kahn. It was the first time they started using various gimmicks to trick the audience.
Kirsten shares her thoughts on Star Trek: The Motion Picture. She didn’t have the same complains with the film that a lot of other fans had about it. Terry attributes it to the generation gap of the people watching it. Mike talks about the recent trend on television of taking established films and expanding them into a television series and how he believes Star Trek VI could support such an endeavor. Marc talks about watching TMP as part of his research for These are the Voyages Volume Four. He then shifts the discussion to Star Trek VI.
We’ve strained our streaming software and decide it’s a good time to do a full restart of all of our software. Kirsten decides to step out for the evening. We thank her for joining us and invite her back for a future interview.
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He is the co-owner of Busy Little Beaver Productions and is the producer and co-host for G & T Show and Gates of Sto’vo’kor. He’s directed voice actors, and produced and edited audio podcasts and dramas because he doesn’t have the face for video. He plays well with others and is always on the look out for the next project, the next thing, the next next. If he wasn’t working on something with a half dozen other projects waiting in the wings, somebody please check to make sure he’s still breathing.
During the day, he’s a mild-mannered computer repair man who dabbles in web design in his small, rural, Central California community. He lives with his lovingly dysfunctional family and loyal canine companion and spends most of his time in the closet concocting some hair-brained scheme or another. He’s got an unhealthy obsession with Lego video games, Klingons, and Star Trek Online that borders on the neurotic.
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