G & T Show 37 – Vanguardian Shenanigans is now available for downloading. Give it a listen here. This week, Nick and Teri are joined once again by Mike (Soriedem). They’ve got a Star Trek Las Vegas Update, an all-new Ask Dayton # 22 – Write Now, Edit Later, Teri’s Voyager Watch, and a spoiler-free discussion of Star Trek Vanguard, with an emphasis on Storming Heaven.
They kick off this week’s show by acknowledging April Fool’s Day. They have a lot to talk about so they get right into it. Nick was up late preparing for this week’s show. He mentions his health issues and shares with us that he won’t be able to do the show anymore. Teri and Mike were taken by surprise, until Nick revealed that he was pulling our legs. Not wanting to dwell on the topic, Nick moves us along by telling us about the Tribble Squirrel Contest that we’re hosting with Tribbles in Ecstasy. For the artists out there, we want you to design what you think a tribble squirrel looks like. For the writers in our audience, we’re looking for a children’s story about the Tribble-squirrel. We’ll put them together in an ebook. So, post your pictures and stories on our forums.
Teri admits that she was up late looking at Venus last night through her telescope. Nick thanks DefCon for updating the forums with the latest information on upcoming Star Trek novels. Teri invites everyone to check them out, register, and join in the conversation. Mike warns that spammers will be banned. They talk with Baz and CaptPFDennis in the chat room. Teri is looking forward to the “big” announcement that PWE_BranFlakes had hinted about last week concerning the Foundry, which reminds Nick of Havraha. Teri asks if anyone has seen Sean Tourangeau’s renditions of Ensign and Mirror Universe Helna. They talk about him and his art as Teri shows off some of the photos to the chat room, including one he did for her of Beth. Nick wants one of Vicky.
They move on to the Star Trek Las Vegas Update. Nick announces that two new guests have been added to STLV. Teri is looking forward to seeing them. Jacqueline Kim (Demora Sulu, Star Trek Generations) will be signing autographs in the Vendors room on Thursday. She’ll be pitching Advantageous, a sci-fi short film that she’s in. Lycia Naff (Ensign Sonya Gomez from TNG’s Samaritan Snare and Q Who) will be appearing on Friday. She may have a small role in the series, but her character goes on to become Captain of The Davinci in the Star Trek Corps of Engineers novels and eBooks. Star Trek Las Vegas is really filling up. Teri recommends that our listeners go to Creation Entertainment’s website and get your tickets. Although, there are weekend packages still available, the Preferred Daily seats are now on sale. Teri is amazed that they’re available so soon. Teri suspects that the reserved seating is going to sell out before June, so get your tickets before they’re going. They remind everyone to send your #CoxForSTLV to Creation Entertainment on Facebook and Twitter. Teri wants her Cox. They even asked Creation to send us an email to firstname.lastname@example.org to let us know what the status of Ronny Cox is. If he can’t make it because he’s working, just tell us and we’ll stop pestering you. Otherwise, we want Ronny Cox at STLV. Nicks says that the Preferred Seating will get you into the Avery Brooks concert.
Teri tells us about Geek Nation Tours. They still have tickets available for their tour of Star Trek film locations throughout Southern California with host Larry Nemecek in the week preceding STLV. Nick and Teri reveal that some fleet mates were planning to come by Teri’s home before driving up to Vegas for the convention. Nick is bummed that he won’t be there because he’ll be at Shoreleave that weekend. He reveals that he has been working with Risa from Trek Radio on press passes and a possible interview with either LaVar Burton or Kate Mulgrew. They spend a few moments talking about Kate Mulgrew and her roles as Captain Janeway in Voyager and as Kove in NTSF:SD:SUV.
Teri wonders where Anthony Montgomery (Travis Mayweather, Enterprise) has been, since she hadn’t heard from him in a while. Teri tries to move the show along, by mention that she has the list Nick asked her to write up, but Mike got them to chase a massive squirrel concerning their laminated list that spun out of control into a variety of other topics. Nick plans to reveal his new laminated list on a future show. It gets Teri to ask when the new Avenger’s movie comes out. Nick that it and the Dark Knight Rises should be released in June or July, that Prometheus is due out in either April or May. They talk about Liam Neeson reprising his role as Ra’s al Ghul in Dark Knight Rises. Nick has to see the movie Taken. Teri brings up the Graham Norton Show with Patrick Stewart and Liam Neeson, when Liam Neeson changed the greeting to a fan’s voicemail. She goes on to describe the Qui gon Jinn / Jean Luc Picard action figure showdown, which prompts Teri to ask CBS Products to make cooler toys for us to buy. Nick shares a tweet he saw this week concerning the replacement of Darth Maul in Star Wars The Phantom Menace with Justin Bieber.
Nick announces that they had received mail from a listener concerning last week’s episode. The message originates from listener JohnnyQ in New York City. It spurs an impromptu discussion about the Sopranos, before they returned to the email. He shared that Memento has a two disc set that features the original uncut films, and offered corrections to Kirk being killed on Veridian III, K’mpec poisoned with Viridium Six, and Spock placed a viridium patch on Kirk in Star Trek VI. Baz in the chat room asked for clarification about the meaning behind being Dolphin Free, and to clarify it, we’re reposting the explanation here. “No Dolphins are harmed in the making of this show, and there are no dolphins in the show, just like Chicken of the Sea Tuna.” It prompted Teri to mention that she used to be a member of Greenpeace before the person in charge went Garth Izar.
Nick asks Mike if the project they worked on earlier this week was ready. He has made progress, but hasn’t completed it yet. A tweet catches Nick’s eye concerning Taylor Lautner (Jacob Black from the Twilight saga) had been cast for the role of Leonardo in Michael Bay’s rebooted Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie. Teri wonders if Michael Bay was going to cast anyone else that would make her want to see this movie any less. She names off a few of the people that Bay had cast in some of his other movies that she wouldn’t pay to go see, including Megan Fox and Shia LaBeouf. Nick says that he’s recently watched Jennifer’s Body with Megan Fox. Teri says that a former stripper, Diablo Cody, wrote the script for Juno also wrote Jennifer’s Body.
They move on to this week’s Ask Dayton #22 – Write Now, Edit Later. He offers some sage advice to us about writer’s block, the slippery slope of distraction, and the desire to edit your work as you write. He even offers some tips on how he handles these situations. Teri admits that his advice reminded her that she needs to get back to writing. Nick felt the same way when he had read it, followed by James Swallow reminding him to just finish it. Speak of the devil and he shall appear, Mr. James Swallow joined the chat room. They spend a moment talking to him before returning to the Ask Dayton. Nick asks Teri for a deadline so he can finally finish his story. Teri mentions CerberusFilms’ Dax Hamilton’s Personal Log and hopes that he will publish more soon. CerberusFilms is in the chatroom as well. He shares that Reunion will come when Cryptic fixes the Demo Record Tool. They ask Cryptic to fix it.
Moving on, Nick talks about the new Kirsten Beyer’s Voyager The Eternal Tide that will come out on the 28th of August. He’s hoping that she will be at Shoreleave so he may speak with her about it. Nick reads an excerpt from the announcement on StarTrek.com. He mentions last year’s Bring Back Janeway Panel and the Janeway movement. If this is true, this could be a big deal for the Star Trek Universe. Teri cautions that it could be like James Swallow’s novel Synthesis, which its story has very little to do with what is displayed on its cover. Nick thanks DefCon for posting it on our forums. Teri asked if the forum over at TrekBBS had exploded yet, but Nick hadn’t been able to check it out because of everything going on right now in his life.
While Mike asks Mr. Swallow a few questions in the chatroom, Nick shares that he’s currently reading Mr. Swallow’s entry in the Myriad Universes Infinity’s Prism. They move on to Teri’s Voyager Watch. Although Teri had not watched any more episodes of Voyager, she had watched the latest episode of Big Bang Theory, with Leonard Nimoy providing the voice for Spock in a Sheldon dream sequence that featured a Gorn and the Guardian of Forever. The rest of her time was spent reading David Mack’s Star Trek Vanguard Storming Heaven. As they discuss it, Nick starts us off by explaining a connection between the book and the Big Bang Theory. He mentions that Carol Marcus walks past a Dr. Hofstadter and speaks to a Dr. Koothrappali. From that moment on, Nick was searching for a Dr. Cooper and an Engineer Wolowitz. Mr. Swallow mentioned that there was a Big Bang Theory reference in Cast No Shadows. Teri had not read it yet, but Nick thinks he may have tweeted it. While Mr. Swallow provided a hint to refresh Nick’s memory, Teri tells us what she was doing when it came out. Nick confirms that he saw it, but didn’t want to spoil it for Teri.
Returning to Storming Heaven, Teri admits that she had not finished reading it, but was closing in on the end. They decided not to give any spoilers. He shares how he reacted to various aspects of the book, including the final battle of Vanguard, which prompted him to say that Michael Bay has nothing on David Mack. They briefly describe a moment they each about a scene that drove them to tears. Nick says that Quinn’s final scene was bitter sweet. They talk about Nagorra and TOS Admirals in general. Nick mentions that Diego Reyes isn’t even the book, but with so much going on, they didn’t even miss him. In the chatroom, Cushmanzadah asked them to post the Storming Heaven cover on Livestream. While Teri worked on that, Nick asked everyone to send their hate mail to Cush. He even mentioned Ugo.
Returning to the Storming Heaven, they talk about the cover. Nick says that he had heard the Star Trek Fan Fare during the final battle when something happened. Teri asks about the Enterprise’s role in the final battle and justifies it by saying that that is what the Enterprise does. All Nick would say was that it was a beautiful moment. Another emotional moment for Nick dealt with Katami and the Endeavour. Nick almost slips up and gives us a spoiler. Teri comments about how difficult it is to discuss this book without providing spoilers. She also mentions that it’s one of the book series that could very easily translate into an animated series. Mr. Swallow was also responsible for a small portion of the Vanguard story. Nick complains about the lack of a memorial service for the death of Nick Minecci in Dayton’s book That Which Divides. He, then, reads a post he made on Facebook to the authors of Vanguard. Teri agrees with his sentiment and expands that it’s so wonderful to get so attached to new characters.
Cerberusfilms asks to join them at the end of the show to make an announcement about livestream’s new home. He’ll be joining them later with more specific details. Moving along, Nick had asked Teri to create a list of her five favorite Vanguard characters for the show. Although, there was a brief misunderstanding as to what the list was to include, they eventually do move on, but not before Teri explains that she’s a literal thinker and requires specifics. She shares an anecdote about Alan to illustrate her point. She, then, mentions that it’s been announced that Obisek will be returning to Star Trek Online in the near future. She goes on to mention Salmek and how much she wanted to shoot him.
Nick brings us back to topic by stating that there were characters that they knew would not die because of their future appearances in the series or movies. However, Nick admits that there were times when he thought that Clark Terrell was a dead man. They mention some of the other characters that nearly met an untimely demise at the hands of the Angel of Death, Dave Mack. They move on to discuss some of the Easter Eggs that are hidden throughout the book that shed light on events scattered throughout the various Star Trek series and movies. They describe their reactions to some of them. They mention some of the references going back to the first book in the Vanguard series Harbinger.
They finally move on to their lists of 5 favorite Vanguard characters. While preparing, Nick mentions that when some of the characters speak, he actually hears the original actor’s voices. When ready, Teri gives us her first choice and they discuss it.
G & T Show’s Favorite Vanguard Characters:
- Tim Pennington
- Cervantes Quinn
- Nassar and the Crew of the Sagittarius
- Diego Reyes
Teri discusses Fisher and the he takes on as spectator of the events on the station. Nick describes him as a combination of McCoy and Troi. Teri says that she visioned him as the actor that David Mack described in his Vanguard Bible even before she had read it. The discussion turns to Katami, the First Officer thrown into the Captain’s chair early on and grows into a respectable Captain. Teri agreed. Nick said she was a great female character. Teri complimented the authors for creating strong female characters throughout the series. Later, they comment on her fashion choices which excluded the TOS miniskirt and the Beehive hairdo. Pennington was another one of their favorite characters. Teri hated him at first, just as she had with Diego Reyes in the third book. He had suffered some serious personal tragedies. Yet through it all, he continued to try and do some good by observing the conditions of everyone on the station. They both loved what Kevin Dilmore did with his character.
During the list, Nick mentions Kush’s comment in the chat room and describes the scene on Vanguard where Kirk has a meeting with Admiral Nagorra. Teri explains that it’s not a spoiler because it sets up a scene in Star Trek II. Later interrupts the Katami discussion to read an announcement from George Takei’s Facebook that turned out to be an April fool’s Joke about a movie featuring him as Captain of the USS Excelsior. Teri asks if anyone’s seen the World of Warplanes MMO’s April fool’s Joke concerning the dragons. Returning to the Takei post, they talk about Gilbert Gottfried with Mike pointing out that he would make for an interesting Ferengi. They continue to outline their lists.
Moving on to Jetenian, Nick describes his scenes as heavy, but light at the same time. Teri explains that although he’s never successful, he’s very good at what he does. Nick points out an example with Gorkon. Teri expresses how artfully Vanguard creates the backstory for the events that take place in later movies and series, especially in regards to the Klingons. It establishes the foundation for Gorkon to seek peace with the Federation and how devious the House of Duras is. Teri compares the Klingon Empire’s society and politics to the Game of Thrones. Teri said that Cervantes Quinn is probably the best original character in any Star Trek series ever! He’s a roguish freighter pilot with a bounty on his head who ultimately finds redemption. He struggled with alcoholism throughout the series. They talk about how they imagined Cervantes Quinn to be and how it differed from Dave Mack’s Vanguard Bible. Later, they refer to a scene with Cervantes Quinn and T’Prynn and said that it was absolutely beautiful. Nick had read the bible after reading Storming Heaven, and didn’t expect Cervantes to be portrayed by Billy Bob Thornton. Instead he expected someone like Nick Frost, Simon Pegg’s friend from Shaun of the Dead. Next they talk about the Sagittarius and its crew. Teri said that any ship that can hide itself in a river wins. Nick expands on it by praising the crew and their interactions with one another.
They talk about Dave Mack’s Vanguard Bible and how the actors that they had based the characters on differed from those they imagined as they read the books, including a certain captain that made Teri’s Laminated List. Moving on with their list of favorites, Teri chooses Reyes while Nick goes with T’Prynn. Nick says that there were lots of wonderful characters in Vanguard including Ganz and Ming that make it well worth reading. Nick mentions the technical information and crew for the Sagittarius on Dave’s website. While they discuss T’Prynn, Mr. Swallows mentions in the chat room that he had written a T’Prynn scene in his mirror universe story. They speculate on T’Prynn’s character in the mirror universe for a moment.
Nick notes Diego and T’Prynn’s arcs are devastating in so many ways. Teri says that when she had started reading the series, neither of these characters would have made her list of favorites. Teri’s favorite scene with T’Prynn occurred when she met with Spock, which complimented the scene with him in the first book. Nick says that she needs to read the final scene with her at the piano with Zeke. Teri was finding it hard to forgive her for all of the things that she had done. Nick doesn’t reveal anything about Diego’s final scene, but states that Teri is going to have tears. Teri says that it had to come down to Diego destroying a planet before he did the right thing. She goes on to say that she found it repulsive that these people would actually put their careers before doing the right thing. Then, she says that the brilliance of the books was in its ability to portray the negative side of the politics involved in the forming of the Federation, while the shows tried to paint a positive view of humanity. Nick states that Pennington’s and Quinn’s downward spiral is a direct result of T’Prynn’s actions. Even the things that Diego had to do were a direct result of things she had set in motion. Ultimately, she realizes that rank and career mean nothing unless everyone in Starfleet begins to live and act according to the ideals of the Federation by doing the right thing.
Cerberus steps forward to discuss his big announcement. Next week, the G & T Show will be testing a possible new home with a lot of new features. So, next week, look for us there. There will be a link posted on http://livestream.com/cerberusfilms. It’s a test, so who knows what we will discover. He says that it should be easier to use. Teri needs to know where they’re going to be so that she can print some collateral for G & T’s appearance at STLV.
Teri asks everyone to follow their twitter account, their Facebook page, and their website. Cerberus adds that a Google+ account is currently in the works and should be made available soon. Nick asks Mr. Swallow if he had anything to plug while he was in the chat room. Teri has the book bookmarked. The story with T’Prynn is called Black Flag. Mr. Swallow has a TNG novella coming out later this year. But, the title for it is yet to be confirmed. Teri tells Lanny to read That Which Divides after he made a comment about Nick’s death.
Teri shares that she has two Massively articles coming out this week. The Captain’s Log will feature the second part to the Al Rivera interview, and the Captain’s Log Supplemental will discuss the new upcoming Klingon episode and Klingon Awareness Week. Nick asks Mike to share his news about the Gates of Sto’vo’kor. Thanks to the G & T Show audience, the Gates of Sto’vo’kor has seen a dramatic increase in traffic and we would like to thank you for taking a look at what we have to offer. Also, he mentions that this week a new episode will be released and invites everyone to check it out. Then, during Klingon Awareness Week, Gates of Sto’vo’kor and Targs in Ecstasy are co-sponsoring a melee-only bat’leth tournament on Saturday at 3PM PST. Sign up on the STO forums and meet us at the Battle Arena on First City, Qo’nos. Teri shares that she was honored enough to play the new Klingon mission in while she was visiting Cryptic and encourages everyone to check it out on Friday , April 5th when it gets released. Nick mentions that G & T Show is doing very well in ratings. Everyone here at the G & T Show thanks our audience for their listenership and hopes that they will continue to spread the word. Nick envisions great things for the show they continue to move forward. They conclude the show with our email, email@example.com, and their respective twitter address: @TerilynnS, @Gettysburg7, @SoriedemSTO, and @CerberusFilms. Nick adds @Cushmanzadah.