The G & T Show 38 – Havraha, It’s a Trap! is now available for downloading. This week Nick and Teri have returned with an extra special Easter episode. Happy Easter everybody! They are joined by Mike (Soriedem), Havraha, and later CerberusFilms. They’ve got a STLV update, Star Trek 2 news, an all-new Ask Dayton, and Teri’s Voyager Watch. Check it out here.
They begin the show with the announcement that their show is now bunny free. They take a moment to talk about chocolate bunnies, an endangered species in Mike’s household. Moving on, Teri shares that she had recently been experiencing ringing in one ear and apologizes if she can’t hear. Nick refers to Steve Austin and the crowd’s response of “what?” while he spoke. They have a big show this week and they even came prepared with notes and everything. Nick warns us that Havraha may be joining us on the air.
While Nick and Mike pass messages back and forth, Teri shares some of the news that she had received this week. She begins with last week’s First Contact Day on April 5th. It celebrates first contact between humans and Vulcans on April 5th 2063. She points to Larry Nemecek’s Trekland Blog for a post concerning a 16-month old named Zefram living in Bozeman, Montana. He had discovered this while trying to find out if there were any First Contact celebrations planned in or around Bozeman. There were not. Nick believes that if Trekkies 3 were to be made, this would totally show up in it. Nick says that naming your kid Zephram really stands out and shares some other names that are uniquely Trek, such as Tiberius or Jean-Luc. Teri expands upon it with a Firefly reference to Mal or a man named Jayne.
Nick takes a moment to make Teri spit out her gum. She makes a Fast Times at Ridgemont High reference. Nick points out Ray Walston (Mr. Arnold Hand) also appeared in Star Trek as Boothby. They spinout into a discussion of Fast Times before Teri brings us back to the topic of First Contact. Star Trek Online had an event this weekend for First Contact Day, which reminded Teri to ask Mike about Klingon Awareness Week. He tells us about the Bat’leth Tournament that Gates of Sto’vo’kor and Targs in Ecstasy hosted over the weekend. He thanks Xander for stepping up and helping them get through the tournament’s rough start. Nick says that he had noticed that when Xander takes over, everything goes much smoother. He wasn’t here today.
CaptPFDennis mentioned in the chat room that he had RAGE QUIT from the bat’leth tournament. Soriedem explained that they had issues with Star Trek Online that prevented us from getting the individual matches onto Livestream. Nick finds it hard to believe that he is capable of rage. CaptPFDennis says Nick hasn’t seen him behind driving. Nick redacts his previous statement. In order to keep CaptPFDennis from Hulking out on us, we present one of his entertaining commercials for Khell’aghs Racht Bites.
Nick moves along with the Star Trek Las Vegas Update. Barry Jenner (Admiral Ross, DS9) has gotten both Nick and Teri excited. They share some of their memories of him from last year’s STLV. They had spent an hour with him Thursday morning and had a really good time. Denise Crosby (Tasha Yar and Sela, TNG) was added finally. They wondered why it took so long for her to be announced. Teri says that Denise had been doing live theater recently in LA with Gates McFadden. Gates McFadden is the artistic director for a small theater that has put on a number of independent plays. Marina Sirtis and Neil Patrick Harris performed in a play there recently as well. Nick provides a hint that both Deanna and Beverly get a mention in the Ask Dayton that will be coming up later in the show. Returning to STLV, both Jenner and Crosby will be in the vendor’s room selling autographs.
Gingerbrit, in the chat room, got our attention just to say hi. Moving on to the G & T Show’s STLV update, Nick announced a change in his travel plans during the convention. Nick won’t be flying into Las Vegas on Tuesday. Instead, he will be flying into Albuquerque on Monday and driving into Vegas with Teri, Alan, Will (Beef Jerky), and Brandon (Big Gulp) – Road Trip. Nick gave them nicknames. CaptPFDennis got Nick’s leg to twitch when he mentioned that he should probably change his flight plans as well. Kestra suggested that they rent a Winnebago rather than take separate vehicles. Teri and Nick agreed that it would be a fun alternative, They plan to a stop at the crater in Arizona. It reminded Nick of Starman, one of the movies that bring tears to his eyes.
Nick mentions the new entry in the tribble-squirrel contest and points out that Mike’s entry wasn’t working. Mike explained that he’s been experiencing issues with the Gates of Sto’vo’kor website. He’s thrown Orions and Gorn at it, but the server keeps going down. Nick suggests using Lethean mind powers on the server to get it to cooperate. They finish up the discussion of the new entry to the Tribble Squirrel contest. Nick wonders where Havraha was. Havraha responds from the chat room. While Teri attempted to bring up CBS’ denied Star Trek Phase II’s permission to use a script, Nick asks Havraha to join them on the air once he realized that PodcastUGC wasn’t actually StarbaseUGC. Teri warns Havraha that it was a trap.
While waiting for Hav to join us, Nick moves us into Teri’s Voyager Watch. Although Teri had not watched another episode yet, she did say that Alan wanted to but did not. Mike suggests renaming the segment Alan’s Voyager Watch. She liked that idea. She explains that she hasn’t had the time to watch Voyager lately. Bob in the chat room draws Teri’s attention and reminds her that she needed to play something on the air. As she looked for it, they told us about CerberusFilm’s test run of the new livestream page. It wasn’t quite ready for prime time. Another test will be coming later when they are able to resolve some technical issues.
Havraha joined us on the air. Nick mentions that he named his new tactical ship the USS Helna after Hav’s Ensign Helna character in Star Trek Online. Havraha asks why he was told to be here this morning. Nick explains that he had been listening to All Things Trek, a podcast by fellow fleet mate RJCfoxtrot, and came across an episode where Havraha had been on the show. Nick goes on to say that Hav made a comment that he felt was insaine about Archer being the only fleshed out Captain and all of the others were one-dimensional. They have a discussion on Hav’s position. Nick stands up for Sisko. However, that wasn’t the only reason why Nick asked Hav to come on this week’s show. He was there when Nick learned the true identity of his nemesis, Uggo. Better yet, he has an audio message from Uggo. They talk about the message, Havraha and his other personas, including the twin Helnas, Ensign and Mirror. According to Nick, Hav was the result of a transporter accident that split him, the opposite of Tuvix. Hav wouldn’t want to live if he was spliced with Neelix. However, Nick wouldn’t mind being spliced with Hoshi.
They move on to this week’s Ask Dayton #23 – The Ginger and Mary Ann of Star Trek, but we lose Nick in the process. Havraha says that it’s unethical to invite him onto the show and attack him. Nick returns with a response. Later, Nick brings Jellico into the discussion. Teri just laughs at them, because they’re both complex characters. Nick comments on the amount of time Teri has been watching Voyager. Havraha shares that he’s been slowly getting through Star Trek Enterprise The Last Full Measure by Michael A. Martin and Andy Mangels. Havraha tells us about the book. It’s a Reed and Hayes story featuring the MACOs and takes place during the 3rd Season of Enterprise. Nick has read the book. Teri mentions that the chat room is yelling at them for being on topic. Nick mentions that Teri has finished reading David Mack’s Star Trek Vanguard Storming Heaven. They finally get to this week’s Ask Dayton.
After the Ask Dayton, they move on to Listener Mail with another email from JohnnyQ. In addition to his email, he provides us a link to a blog posted by Gary Goddard called “Now it can be told: The Star Trek Attraction that almost came to life in 1992. It’s about a plan to build a full scale Starship Enterprise in the middle of downtown Las Vegas as a Hotel. Nick reads some of the article and points out some of the key points for us. They discuss the article. Teri explains that the individuals that run these types of companies are anti-risk and nothing will get run because they work off fear first. Havraha mentions that if it doesn’t work and make money, it can be knocked down like all of the other buildings in Vegas. Teri mentions the research she’s doing on the Sarbanes-Oxley Act and what it’s done to Hollywood and creativity, which is why independent films and internet producers are going to be the sources for great content. With the discussion wrapped up, Nick reads JohnnyQ’s email.
They return to the discussion and speculate about the Enterprise hotel and the ways they would have expanded it over the years. They discuss some of the ideas that they could have used for its internal design, such as series specific rooms and hallways for each floor, Mudd’s Women Brothel, the Promenade from DS9, small outlying buildings shaped as shuttle craft. Like other amusement parks, they could have updated it and kept it fresh. But, Paramount blew it. When the subsequent TNG and JJ’s movies came out, the premieres could have been held at the Enterprise. Teri says that it’s sad to see the studios fail to see the power of the fandom that IPs such as Star Trek have. Fullback in the chat room mentioned that because of the shape of the saucer, it could have easily supported a small solar farm to make it self-sufficient. Sadly, it can’t happen now, because CBS and Las Vegas both are in no position to do so.
Moving along, Nick transitions into the Star Trek Phase II script. Recently, a lost TOS script He Walks Among Us surfaced that was written by Norman Spinrad for Milton Berle dramatic comeback. Spinrad sold the script to the general public since it was never going to be turned into a TOS episode. James Cawley, Executive Producer and Director of the Star Trek Phase II fan production, contacted Spinrad and received permission for them to produce the episode. Just as they had done with David Gerrold’s Blood And Fire. However, CBS came out and told them that they cannot use it. Although they were within their rights to do this, because they do own the script, Teri speculates as to why they would have done this. One of the ideas that she mentions pertains to the fact that JJ may choose to do it for a future Star Trek film. DefCon in the chat room chimes in that the script in question was never lost. Pocket Books had the script in their office.
Nick mentions that Phase II will be releasing The Child on April 5th based on a script written by Jon Povill and Jaron Summers, and later rewritten by Maurice Hurley for TNG. Finally, Nick reads an announcement by Cawley pertaining to an upcoming episode that was written by David Gerrold that involves something fuzzy. Mike asks if CBS was afraid to make money, and Teri explains that they’re afraid to risk money, which is why they’re making the Three Stooges rather than trying to come up with something original. She mentions Ice Road Truckers as the kind of exciting entertainment that Americans will spend their time watching. Hav questions how it will do against other movies that will be playing at the same time, such as Hunger Games. Teri points out that The Three Stooges is rated PG, which means that fathers will be taking their 8 year sons to the movie rather than to the PG-13 Hunger Games. Each of those movies is geared towards different audiences.
While Nick resolves an issue with his connection, Teri continues that Marvel is one of the few companies not making remakes, because Disney had purchased their IP in order to create movies, which explains why they made The Avengers, Captain America, Thor, and Iron Man. Nick mention Prometheus and they debate it. Essentially, Prometheus is an original story, but it’s still a prequel within the existing Aliens IP, written by Ridley Scott. All of these factors contribute to the reason why it’s not risky.
Nick moves us along with the Star Trek 12 Movie News. He tells us about Kurtzman’s update on the movie, which praised JJ’s directing on the project, the progress that they’ve made in bring it closer to completion, and the interactions of the crew moving them closer to becoming the bridge crew from the series. Teri replies that we’re going to be looking at more crew conflict. Continuing, Kurtzman praised Cumberbatch’s work in the film. Teri calls Benedict Cumberbatch one of the strongest actors of this generation and can’t wait to see him on the big screen. Willomally in the chat room took an alternate view by stating that the higher the praise, the greater the suckage.
Hav wonders what it was in the 2009 movie that he didn’t like. The more he analyzes the movie, the more difficult it becomes to identify it. But whatever it is, the next movie is going to have a lot more of it. Nick says that Trek fans will over analyze it. However, despite all of the bad, there is a lot of good stuff in that movie. Teri doesn’t want to spend a lot of time discussing the 2009 movie, and instead hopes that the next one is just as much fun. She adds that it’s still the only Star Trek movie that she doesn’t own. Hav says that it’s not Star Trek enough for him, and it doesn’t really seem very TOS either. He goes on to admit that he doesn’t watch Star Trek Phase II, so he’s indifferent about the situation. This gave Teri an opportunity to mention another one of James Cawley’s projects Back to the Wild Wild West. Teri says that Cawley gets it and understands the fandom.
Nicks brings us back to Star Trek 12 by discussing something Mike said in the chat room about the announcement of more crew conflict within the next movie. Nick points out that there was conflict between McCoy, Spock and Kirk. Teri describes it as loving conflicting. Based on the way 2009 ended, the crew was heading in that direction. Teri reminds us what we know about the movie, which includes the continuing relationship between Uhura and Spock, which should bring about some issues with the bridge crew, and then, there’s Kirk. Nick was pleased that Uhura was taking a more active role on the landing party as it was evident in some of the leaked photos.
Nick thinks Zoe Saldana’s experience has allowed Uhura to finally leave the bridge; however, Teri cautions against using her as the definition of a strong woman. Nick points to Kira Nerys as a better example of a strong woman. Teri stated that she was a better choice over Jadzia Dax, who drew her strength from the fact that she had once been a man. They discuss Dax and the choice of having it reincarnate as Ezri. Teri believes that DS9 would have lasted longer and been more interesting if Dax had returned as a man. They talk about how in DS9 finale everyone partners up to tie together all the loose strings.
Teri brings us back to Star Trek 12 and says that Kurtzman would never say anything negative about the film or JJ because that would be risky. Mike states that it may make more people want to watch it. Nick remembers that someone had said some negative things about their own movie. Teri explains that there was some brouhaha about Shia LaBeouf saying some negative things about Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull. Nick says that Megan Fox was dead on talking about how bad the Transformers movie had been. Although Teri doesn’t really like her, she does bring up some good points. In Hollywood, women are seen and treated very badly. Acting is not required if they’re beautiful and have a 19 inch waist.
Nick states that he’s going to ask Kate Mulgrew about it, if he gets the opportunity to interview Kate Mulgrew. Teri is interested to hear her thoughts about it, since she had gotten her roles in Warehouse 13 and NTSF:SUV:SD from people she knows. Other than those roles, she’s in the theater, where it really doesn’t matter what you look like as long as you can act. Nick brings up Donny Osmond as an example, and they cite his performances in Joseph and the Technicolor Dream coat. Teri says he’s also been doing voice over work for Mulan. Nick adds that Sabastian Bach from the rock group Skid Row has also been doing very well on the stage for his work in Phantom of the Opera (it’s actually Jekyll & Hyde).
Teri brings us back to topic by saying that talent isn’t as important in Hollywood as the look. Nick adds that the camera is far less forgiving than the stage. Teri mentions that Megan Fox was proud that she was able to get her waist down to 19 inches with a corset for the movie Jonah Hex. The camera adds 20 pounds automatically. Nick brings up Nicole de Boer as another example of a tiny actress. He then uses Suzie Plakson, who had played Robert’s ex-wife on Everybody Loves Raymond, as the exception. Teri points out that she’s tall and thin.
Nick puts Mike on the spot by asking him to share the news that he had given them concerning the website. Before doing so, Nick thanks our audience, Dayton Ward, and all of the authors (David Mack, Keith DeCandido, Larry Nemecek) that had come on the show and put links to our site on theirs. Teri sums it all up when she states that our numbers are amazing. Mike doesn’t reveal the actual numbers, but instead takes a moment to thank everyone that has helped to make the show such a success. Thank you. Nick mentions the growth that we are seeing, and says that NBC’s primetime lineup would love to see the growth that we are seeing. Teri says that SyFy should be coming to us. Lanny in the chat room asked if Mike was going to start crying when they handed him the award, which made Nick ask, why Mike?
Moving on, Teri asked Nick if he wanted to reveal the details of their next contest. But, first he wanted to talk about the contest they currently have. The Tribble Squirrel Contest is in two parts. There’s still no end date yet. The first part is to design a tribble squirrel in whatever medium you prefer. Nick reveals that Hav will be producing Rocky, the flying tribble squirrel. The second is for the writers out there to write a short children’s story about the tribble squirrel. All of the entries will be turned into an ebook and distributed on our website. Nick even suggested that our author friends submit stories under a pseudonym.
DefCon posted a reminder. Nick and Teri ask Dave Mack if he’s listening before they congratulate him for winning the Unreality-SF’s Tie-In Novel of the Year for Rise Like Lions, which was voted on by the fans. Congratulations Dave! It was David’s second win and the fourth consecutive win for Star Trek. Nick reads off the results.
- Rise Like Lions – David Mack
- Watching the Clock – Christopher L. Bennett
- House of the Dead – James Goss
- The First Wave – Simon Guerrier
- Darth Palgueis – James Luceno
- Children of the Storm – Kirsten Beyer
- Borrowed Time – Naomi Alderman
- The Cold Equations – Simon Guerrier
- To the Death – Nicholas Briggs
- Choices of One – Timothy Zahn
During the results, Nick admits that he voted for Children of the Storm. Sorry Dave. Teri says the results can be viewed here and suggests that our listeners bookmark UnReality-SF since they deal that deals with SciFi and Tie-In Literature. Nick congratulates David Mack. With so many great books coming out this year, including: Storming Heaven, That Which Divides, Christopher L. Bennett’s DTI Forgotten History, Kirsten Beyer’s The Eternal Tide, and Dave Mack’s new triology Cold Equations 1, 2, & 3, next year’s voting will be just as much fun and just as competitive.
Havraha asks Teri if he could plug Podcast UGC’s Galor Contest. Hav and Teri are co-hosts on Podcast UGC, a podcast dedicated to Star Trek Online and the Foundry, their fan fiction mission creator tool. In January, Star Trek Online released a very rare Cardassian Galor Ship. They are giving away two of these very rare ship for the contest. They are asking for an elevator pitch of 500 words or less for a Cardassian mission. Send your entries to firstname.lastname@example.org.
CerberusFilms snuck into the chat earlier and surprised everyone when he announced that he needs to get his entry submitted. Oliver asked about audio books and whether or not there are many Star Trek audio books available. Nick and Teri referred him to Audible.com, Amazon.com, and iTunes. Teri cautions that some of the newer books may be more difficult to find, but the older books should be available. She shares a story about her as a child reading books to her blind grandfather. She tells Pocket Books to create more audio books or release the text to speech feature on them. Do you hear her Pocket?
Nick mentions that he’s joined a writers group and will be attending his first meeting next week and looks forward to getting back to writing. Then, he tells us about the upcoming Summer Audio Drama Contest to give everyone ample time to get their entry together. The contest begins on Memorial Day (May 28th) and will run through Labor Day (1st weekend of September), so get started now. They could be as simple or as complex as you want, but must be no longer than 5 minutes. You can enter alone or as a group. CaptPFDennis said that he’s going to get an entry together. Mike is going to get Gates of Sto’vo’kor to put together an entry. Havraha said, he’s going to grab Doc and win this. Teri is excited and looking forward to all the wonderful stories. Nick then, reveals the theme that the audio drama must be the Kobayashi Maru. It could be set in any Star Trek Universe, at any time, or place, but it must in some meaningful way go back to the Kobayahi Maru.
Havraha didn’t like it, but Cerb did. Nick explains why they chose the Kobayashi Maru for a theme. They had been discussing Hav reading the Enterprise novels, which reminded Nick of the Kobayashi Maru, which lends itself to a variety of storytelling possibilities. They don’t want to hear about everyone’s captain going through the Kobayahi Maru, but instead, look forward to stories that reference it in some meaningful way. The prize for the contest is still to be determined.
Teri thanks everyone for listening and supporting the show. Nick shares that we’ve had 21 listeners on Easter Sunday. She then reminds everyone that we’re going to be at Star Trek Las Vegas at the TrekRadio.net booth and Podcaster’s Row. We’d love to see you there. Podcast UGC is Live Tuesday evenings around 9pm EST on Trek Radio. The mp3 gets posted Thursday evenings. You can also join them on their JustinTV channel. He’s on Twitter as @Havraha. At the time of the recording, Gates of Sto’vo’kor’s website was down, and would be back as quickly as the Letheans he’s hired can do it. When this episode is posted, the issues will be resolved and the site will be back online. On Twitter he’s @SoriedemSTO. Nick mentions All Things Trek. It airs Saturdays, though no one was quite sure when. However, Nick found it on iTunes. Primetime UGC an amazing Foundry made Machinima Video-cast that airs every other Monday at 6pm EST. They can be found on Starbase UGC and on CerberusFilms’s Livestream. On a final note, Nick thanks his friends for their support in helping him deal with recent events. He will be here next week, but will be undergoing a medical procedure on Thursday. Teri wanted to pimp Tribbles in Ecstasy on Friday Nights 6pm EST/ 3pm PST. Xander is a big part of the show, even when he’s not here. Teri’s Captain’s Log massively column comes out on Monday afternoons.