G & T Show 172 – Star Trek 3 Rumors and Wishful Thinking
G & T Show 172 – Star Trek 3 Rumors and Wishful Thinking is now available to download. Check it out here. Nick, Terry, and Mike have returned for our final episode of 2014. Instead of doing a retrospective, they look forward to what is coming in the next two years with Star Trek’s 50th Anniversary looming on the horizon. They discuss Star Trek Movie News, Rumors, and Wishful Thinking; Star Trek News, STO News, and provide an update to STLV 2015.
We kick off our final show of the year in a spectacular fashion thanks to Nick’s introductions. We jump straight into Coffee Clatch with discussions of their respective holiday celebrations. Mike got a cold, and has shared his gift with his family, who should appreciate it come the New Year. Nick is in the northern studios and shares his Christmas experiences including his Batman Watch. Mike says his nephews made him cry with a Yoda Goblet and the card they included. Terry said that her and her husband celebrated the holiday and their upcoming anniversary on New Year’s Eve with the purchase of a new big screen smart television.
Terry explains that she got Allen to watch Sherlock. Nick shares that he got Janice to watch Wolverine and the X-Men. Terry is enjoying Star Wars: Rebels. They talk about animated cartoons and some of the more intelligent fare. Terry recently saw The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies. Terry and Mike discuss the film. Nick got Dominion on DVD and brings up Ascension. Mike enjoyed it and comments that SyFy has gotten better in terms of Science Fiction they are producing, although a lot of it still kinda cheesy and usually very low budget. He’s enjoying it nonetheless.
Moving along to Movie News, they start things off with the big announcement that came out this week. Justin Lin, best known for directing several installments of the Fast and Furious series, had been named director for Star Trek 3. Lin is a director with a long list of credits for drama, comedy, and more. Nick wonders why the Fast and Furious films were able to get away with six and soon to be seven films while the Rocky franchise was criticized for its sequels because of the main character aging. The squirrel gets away from us as they discuss Rocky and the Academy Awards nominations and wins. They get back on track, discussing Lin’s potential as a director for the next installment of the Star Trek series.
On the heels of the Justin Lin announcement, we get a release date for the new film. Mike points out the countdown clock on our site for not only STLV 2015 but also Star Trek 3’s release date. Mike refers to the unconfirmed rumors he had heard about the issues with the script, but says that those rumors can not be true if they have moved on and set a release date. Terry points out that some hoopla went down a few days later when click bait articles spreading the rumors that Orci’s script for ST3 had been thrown out. They set the record straight after conducting some research on the subject about what Orci had actually said in the interview with TrekMovie.
Nick says that he’s been watching DS9 with Janice and agreed with Mike that Martok is “the shit”. Nick coins the term “Martok squirrel”, which prompts him to ask the chatroom to create one. Mike jumps in and turns it into a contest. The best rendition of a Martok Squirrel will receive the Klingon Pop Warrior Music Project’s CD: Warrior Woman by Jen Usellis.
Terry returns to Movie News. She recaps the latest news and states that Orci is now the film’s Producer and clarifies the rumors about the writing process for the film. McKay and Payne are still the main writers. Nick uses Marc Cushman’s book series These are the Voyages to help make his point that producers may not receive writing credit even if they do participate in the script process. The fact that they announced the release date, suggests that they have a script in hand that they are willing to move forward with. Mike said that the CGI will take nearly all of this time to complete and they couldn’t move forward with it without a script in hand.
We begin speculating about the time frame of the film’s release and what it could mean for a TV show. Mike and Terry agree that with the film’s release in July, they could reuse the film’s sets and effects and jump straight into production on a series with ample time to spare to have it ready to go for the fall. Nick wonders if all this is going on behind the scenes, why hasn’t more information leaked out about it. Mike suggests that they will keep it close to the vest for several months. Nick wonders if we could get an announcement around the time of STLV.
Nick wonders if the comment about the bigger chair thing has anything to do with Star Trek. They quickly runs through some possibilities, but Mike refuses to accept anything else being bigger than Star Trek, except for maybe Disney, Star Wars, and possibly Marvel. But, we don’t know where he is moving off to, but Terry and Mike are optimistic that he will be going to CBS to produce a Star Trek tv show. He reiterates his thought that they will save money for the production if they reuse the sets from the film in the tv show.
Terry asks the next logical question about who will be cast in the film. She doubts they can get the entire crew. Nick doesn’t think it’s going to be the Enterprise, because the brewery set (engine room) wouldn’t always be available. Nick doesn’t think Chris Pine and Zoe Saldana will make the move to television. However, everyone agrees that Karl Urban‘s McCoy could make the leap over, as well as John Cho would could reprise Sulu. Mike thinks that those two characters alone could legitimize the television show as a continuation of the films even if the rest of the crew is recast. Terry suggests that it is an alternate Universe, so McCoy and Sulu don’t have to stay on the Enterprise.
Nick thanks Roberto Orci for giving us the first half of our show. Nick wonders about the amount of hate mail he must get. Terry and Nick both know understand what it is like to get hate mail, but Mike does not. Terry attributes it to Mike being a lovable targ, though he preferred a Sehlat, a giant teddy bear with fangs and claws. The conversation shifts. Mike wants to see multiple shows across several formats, and suggests (though highly unlikely to happen) some of the unofficial productions be allowed to produce and distribute their shows on Netflix and Amazon. Nick suggested an Anthology series, but Mike thought it sounded expensive.
Sunseahl in the chatroom surprised us with a Martok Squirrel for the contest. With that they move on to Star Trek News. Terry starts off the segment with the Star Trek 2014 Year in Review. We speak to our chatroom for a moment before we move on to the underlying assumption that’s necessary for every Star Trek Mission. In it she mentions the smart man in the room trope. In Trek, everyone was smart and respected everyone’s abilities. Mike talks about an article he had seen talking about how Star Trek has gotten away from its mission statement, “Space. The final frontier …”. The movies have never been about exploration. Mike connects a few dots based on the discussion of Star Trek VI and false flag operations and has come to the conclusion that the new series may revisit and expand on the Klingon Chancellor’s assassination leading to peace with the Klingon Empire. Nick would like it to be about Curzon Dax. They talk about their respective dogs before moving on to the next segment of the show.
Terry asks if anyone got any good Star Trek stuff for Christmas. Nick got Batman stuff. Terry still wants her Starfleet Academy hoodie. Mike mentioned that he got These Are the Voyages Season 3 before the holiday and has really been enjoying it. Nick wants a life-sized Larry Nemecek cardboard cut out for our booth next year. Speaking of Larry, Mike reveals an announcement that Starfinder is in talks with Larry to have him take on the role of a Romulan Admiral in an upcoming episode of Starfinder.
They jump into STO News next. Terry starts off with the 15% off Zen and Key sale going on right now. Terry shares that Beth is currently at level 58 and only has two missions left. Terry enjoys how the last mission she played presented a dilemna that made her think carefully about how to answer. Mike shares that the next mission made him wonder if his answer in the previous mission would affect the outcome of that mission. They send kudos to Christine and the team. Nick had some STO News. He got it patched and played. He played through the first set of patrols and got bored with it.
Nick complained of the lag he experienced and the amount of people playing during the holidays. Mike found it interesting, because of what he had seen in the Winter Wonderland. Although he hasn’t played much, he has been going into Winter Wonderland to get his Q portraits, only to discover lately that it isn’t as full as it had been in the past. He goes on to share his thoughts on why its not as much fun as the Summer Event. Basically, it all comes down to the activities. The Summer Event is a vacation and you are not dealing with the horrors of war and can relax; whereas, in the Winter Event, we’re shooting something in the face, whether its snowmen, or borg snowmen, or gingerbread people, or whatever. Terry tells us about LOTRO and how its Winter Event is mostly non-combat activities. Terry would like to see non-combat activities come into play. Nick and Mike offers a few suggestions including skiing, snowboarding, or bobsledding. We ask Cryptic to include a new non-combat activity in next year’s Winter Wonderland event.
They talk about the Bug Hunt PVE Queue mission and some of the difficulties with the mission trying to complete the optional objectives and the Advanced queues. Terry mentioned that she did upgrade some of Beth’s ground gear to Mark 14. She also built her first custom kit, which replicated the old Squad Leader kit.
Our final segment discusses the Star Trek Las Vegas Convention. We talk about the issue that arose a few weeks ago about the word “Official” having been left off their website media. It appears to have been an oversight and has been rectified. They discuss some of the other happenings. Mike draws attention to the countdown clock on our website.
Mike goes onto Announcements. He’s been editing scripts for BoN and Starfinder. BoN will be out sometime in 2015. Starfinder episode 5 audio is starting to come in. The final installment in the Starfinder/Gates of Sto’vo’kor cross over episode will be coming out on Friday January 2nd on Gates’s website and released to Starfinder’s the week after that. He thanks everyone that contributed to our fundraiser. The website is up and working great. He is also working on Fires of the Phoenix. They have lots coming up. Terry has announcement. A friend of her’s wrote a book called Sit The Fuck Down. Nick’s big announcement this week is that the Bitter Trolley has returned. Finally, Midnite Shadow reminds us that the latest book club has been posted where we discuss James Swallow’s Cast No Shadow. Also, we have announced our next book club discussion will revolve around Star Trek: Voyager: Homecoming and Farther Shore.
We wind down this show and prepare for our next show next year as we celebrate our fifth season and our fourth year in existence. This year will be our fourth year in a booth and our fifth year at STLV 2014. We send one last thank you to all of our listeners for tuning in and supporting us over the years. We ask you to like our Facebook page.
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During the day, he’s a mild-mannered computer repair man who dabbles in web design in his small, rural, Central California community. He lives with his lovingly dysfunctional family and loyal canine companion and spends most of his time in the closet concocting some hair-brained scheme or another. He’s got an unhealthy obsession with Lego video games, Klingons, and Star Trek Online that borders on the neurotic.
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