G & T Show 198 – It’s An IDIC Party
G & T Show 198 – It’s An IDIC Party is now available to download. Check it out here. Nick, Terry, and Mike are back with a massive episode. It’s been a long week filled with so much News from around the Star Trek Universe, its amazing they got through it all. They discuss everything from Celebrity News, Book and TV News, the latest Kickstarter projects, Movie News, Convention News, STO News, Listener Mail, the History of the Borg, The Wrong Way to Reboot Star Trek, Secret Nerd Shame, and IDIC victories and failures. Check out everything they have to say on these and other topics on this week’s G & T Show.
After introductions in the buff, they kick off this week’s show. It’s been a crazy, wacky week with Facebook pages appearing as if the Confederacy has attacked a Skittles factory. We are pleased about the Supreme Court decisions, especially in regards to gay marriage. Forbes did a study about what this could mean for the US economy, not just the wedding planners and divorce attorneys, but across the board.
Some stupid stuff has happened this week with hypersensitivity, style over substance, and optics over reality. Nick even became a target over one of these. He shares what happened to him over twitter about his avatar, a statue of General Longstreet. He’s disappointed at the lack of historical knowledge and education in this country. People don’t even understand the importance of each branch of government in keeping each other branch in check. They talk politics briefly.
Nick and Mike spoke earlier this week about optics and how the media reported certain Supreme Court decisions this week. Some of the headlines, downplayed some decisions and up-played others. Nick isn’t against the ruling, but is pragmatic about journalistic integrity. Terry believes that justices should set their personal feelings aside activism and focus on what is relevant, practical, and logical as it applies to the Constitution. The American system goes back and forth a lot, but continues to move forward slowly.
Nick points out the potential application of this ruling to gun control laws. Terry doesn’t want to comment on it without doing more research. The 2nd Amendment doesn’t guarantee people the right to have guns for hunting. It was written to give people the means to take back a government that has jumped the shark. Nick suggests that the Civil War could have been the ultimate expression of the 2nd Amendment. He thinks it could make for an interesting paper.
Starfleet Mom is visiting with Terry and they are having fun. They talk about Treklet. Casey is in love and Mike has been replaced.
Nick says that if people are pleased with some of these recent decisions and yet insult people that disagree with those decisions, he asks that they don’t claim IDIC, because they are missing the point. He uses Larry Flint and Jerry Fallwell as an example of IDIC, since they may not have seen eye to eye, they respected one another. Nick and Terry argue. They debate each other often, but at the same time, they love each other and don’t respect each other any less. The Internet has changed that. It has become a mud slinging contest. Nick attributes it to the retirement of Johnny Carson.
Nick shares about Janice’s visit this week. He talks about the debate two people had at Barnes and Noble about Batman. One of the women was a Star Trek fan and is a Dayton Ward fan. He showed her his name in History’s Shadow and she bought the book, right then and there. Speaking of Dayton, Mike launches them into Book News with the recent Facebook post from Dayton stating that Armageddon’s Arrow is now in it’s third printing and it’s only been a month since it’s been released. They congratulate him. Nick would like to see Dayton appear on Fallon. Terry mentions Jimmy’s recent injury.
Nick shares another Janice story that stuns Terry into silence. Mike mentions their new interview with Five Year Mission where they were able to world premiere two songs from Spock’s Brain. Nick offers another Janice story. Mike mistakes Patrick Swayze for Kurt Russel.
Terry moves them into Star Trek News. Nana Visitor surprised everyone on Twitter when she posted a photo of her with a neck brace, talking about her recent surgery removing bone growths from her spinal cord. She is recovering. Mike shares a link that was posted early this week regarding James Horner’s plane crashed. It turns out that he was flying it and has passed away. Nick couldn’t believe that it had occurred this week. They discuss his career including the sound tracks for Star Trek II and III among other notable films for a few minutes. They discuss some of the other composers working in film and television today. Nick asks what composer working today would we like to see take on a new Star Trek television show.
They move along. Mike mentions Patrick Stewart’s work for Strongbow Hard Apple Cider. The first one, he’s asked to remain behind the award he’s holding, while in the second one, he’s fired even before the commercial really gets going. It was very funny stuff.
Terry moves them into Star Trek Movie News. Zachary Quinto and Chris Pine have been contracted for a fourth film and received significant pay bumps in the process. Tucked into the article was the fact that Bad Robot is not Executive Producing the third and fourth films. Paramount has been quoted to say that although the film was well received, it wasn’t a financial success. Jurassic World crossed over a billion dollar gross this week. Mike adds that 2009 barely broke even due to their budget and marketing. Terry is willing to bet that Star Wars clears a billion in their opening weekend. Returning to the article, two producers for Sky Dance were discussing the upcoming film. It means that Bad Robot is out. A whole new team is working on Star Trek. Terry explains what an Executive Producer does. They are the same team that finished Terminator: Genesys. It happened very quietly. In the article, they also discussed the legal wrangling that has to happen between Paramount and CBS in order to produce a Star Trek tv series. Mike refers to an article that quotes Goldberg and Ellison where its revealed that a portion of Star Trek Beyond will be filmed in Dubai. Terry says when Orci left, Bad Robot was completely done. This new team brought in Pegg and Linn for this new film. Everyone seems to be excited about this new film enough to give the leads hefty pay raises. Mike praises Terry for catching the change.
In preparation for Vegas, Nick tells Terry she needs to start lifting her beers, and Mike needs to practice his singing. They move on to Star Trek Beyond, locking down their URL as production begins. Mike shares a trio of quick links. The filming has begun in Vancouver at a state park, where rock climbing may have been involved. Second, he mentions that part of the filming for the next movie will take place in Dubai. Finally, Quinto shared some of the first set photos of him and Saldana in their make up chairs. Production is underway. Nick quickly shares another Janice story. They talk about Zoey Saldana, Chris Pine, and Chris Pratt before getting back to Star Trek Beyond. It was confirmed what we believed to be true from the get go. Mr. Gummelt has yet to confirm that he received his invitation to pitch his series in exchange for the Star Trek Beyond domain name. Kayla has even tried to get him to confirm or deny the rumor only to get no comment from Mr. Gummelt. They discuss it for a few minutes.
Nick goes on a rant about journalistic integrity on the Internet. He speaks generally about the Internet and not specifically about any individual. He has issue with people wanting to protect their sources. It doesn’t fly with him unless a person’s life or livelihood is in danger. He uses Dayton and Van Citters as an example. If you can’t cite a source, it’s just hearsay. Terry is still seeing several sites still running with the original story. She feels bad that fans are getting excited over a false hope that we are getting a new Trek series. But at the same time, she’s pleased that he’s going for it, trying to build grassroots support for his project. Terry, Nick, and Mike would have taken the money and created the series themselves, rather than pitch the show. Mike points out a hypothetical possibility, that his story may be the premise of the fourth film. Mr. Gummelt was the writer for a Trek game, and he could have been using this as a means to get back in the business. However, they wonder how this negatively impacts his brand. Paramount isn’t commenting, because they want it to go away, but Gummelt isn’t going to let it die.
Nick and Terry is pleased about the G & T Show’s relationship with the other journalistic websites covering Star Trek, despite the recent issues that had arisen. Mike says that if a fan is going to get a chance to pitch a new show, it’s going to be one with a proven track record, and so far he believes its limited to only a couple of productions. Terry doesn’t think they have a chance. There are so many insiders trying to make a new show, but CBS isn’t interested in their offerings. Although we are friends with these sites, we are not afraid to call them out when they do something stupid. Until recently Trek Movie was the only source for legitimate Star Trek news. Gummelt was an opportunist for taking advantage of the reporter to build a name for himself and then refusing to answer tough questions.
Because they had mentioned Captain Worf, Mike mentioned the title for the Captain Worf series, since Captain Worf was the title of the pilot, rather than the series. The series title is Star Trek: The Next Generation: The Worf Chronicles. They talk about how long and unusual the name seems. They don’t like it. They didn’t like the character’s name in the title. They offered some better suggestions. In other Dorn News, he revealed his role in Ted 2. Mike quotes a Star Trek.com article. He and Patrick Warburton portray a horrible gay couple, going against type. Nana Visitor also has a role in Ted 2. They talk about Seth MacFarlane’s love of Star Trek. Terry shares an article about his love of Trek and how he applied it to Ted 2. They talk about it and their hope that he could do a new Trek series. Nick suggests Seth doing a Trek sitcom. Seth’s love of the IP would require him to take the opportunity very seriously.
Mike moves them along to Kate Mulgrew, who has started an actor program at Rikers Island prison. He then talks about William Shatner’s motorcycle and is unable to contain his laughter at the concept of a documentary he’s doing about driving the motorcycle home. Nick compares Mike’s laughter to an earlier one this week over an inappropriate and offensive thing. Mike blames it on the stress he had been going through earlier in the week.
Terry talks about a local article about our friend Mike Tripp attending a local convention in his Starfleet Uniform with his daughter, sharing their love of cosplay, while he covered the convention for his work. Mike adds that Tripp plays Hauk on Gates of Sto’vo’kor. Terry mentions a trio of fun articles. GeekTyrant offers a video discussing the history of the Borg. Cracked covers 5 ways Star Trek was rebooted Wrong. Mike talks briefly about each of those posts. The third article was in regard to Io9’s author admitting his secret nerd shame that he had never seen TNG. It spurred a discussion of fans coming into Trek at various points, including the new fans that came into the fandom with the new films.
Mike moves onto Kickstarter News. He starts off talking about For the Love of Spock. He also mentions Captain Pike on Indiegogo, New Voyages’ Kickstarter is their final hours, and the Romulan War book series and Technical Manuals is on fire. He discusses each of these projects.
Nick had shared a link earlier this week regarding Rose Mcgowan getting fired because of Hollywood’s sexist attitudes towards women. They discuss the article and the auditioning process that many women have to go through in order to get work in Hollywood. She was fired for possibly breaching a non-disclosure agreement. Women are starting to come out about it. The only time an unattractive person gets work in Hollywood is either they produce it themselves, or they are comedians and they are used to make fun of overweight or unattractive people. Ageism is another problem that women in film have to face.
Terry moves them along to STO News. Terry and Mike were both pleased to see a new fleet holding is coming. Mike hopes that the Alliance will be sneaking temporal shielding from it and will put them up around their planets. Terry mentions a duh moment she had on the forums, when someone wondered if the Delta Recruits have anything to do with time travel. They talk about it for a bit, but Mike summons up the reason why they didn’t understand it as Too Long, Didn’t Read. Thomas mentions that he uploaded full rez versions of the Delta Recruitment posters. They talk about the posters. Nick talks about some of the tatoos he wants to get.
They move onto Convention News. Mike tells us about some of the latest news coming out of Shore-Leave, including some new workshops, and the 13 new books premiering during the Meet The Pros event. Terry goes over the newest information coming out of Star Trek Las Vegas. Mike was surprised to see Adam Nimoy as a headliner.
For their final segment of the show, they mention the emails and comments they have received this week. Baz is pleased to inform us that his book will be available in paperback form on Amazon. Nick from Stonewall Fleet asked us to talk about their 6th annual Pride Weekend on July 11th and 12. They also got a couple of comments in regards to previously posted episodes and interviews. Terry adds that the T6 Battlecruisers came out this week in STO as well, which prompts Nick to spontaneously burst into song.
They mention the contests they have going on, including: Terry’s Takedown contest. If anyone wants it, call her. Nick’s celebrity contest. Mike adds that the official announcement for his contest needs to be written up for his Video Karaoke / Lipsync contest with special guest judges, Five Year Mission with bonus points awarded to anyone who Karaokes to a Five Year Mission song. And with that, they wind up this week’s show.
I haven't been around- this is why- had 5 hour surgery to remove bone growing into spinal cord on Tuesday. All good! pic.twitter.com/5K1uQ4xxWr
— Nana Visitor (@NanaVisitor) June 27, 2015
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He is the co-owner of Busy Little Beaver Productions and is the producer and co-host for G & T Show and Gates of Sto’vo’kor. He’s directed voice actors, and produced and edited audio podcasts and dramas because he doesn’t have the face for video. He plays well with others and is always on the look out for the next project, the next thing, the next next. If he wasn’t working on something with a half dozen other projects waiting in the wings, somebody please check to make sure he’s still breathing.
During the day, he’s a mild-mannered computer repair man who dabbles in web design in his small, rural, Central California community. He lives with his lovingly dysfunctional family and loyal canine companion and spends most of his time in the closet concocting some hair-brained scheme or another. He’s got an unhealthy obsession with Lego video games, Klingons, and Star Trek Online that borders on the neurotic.
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