G & T Show 205 – The Chimes At Midnight
G & T Show 205 – The Chimes At Midnight is now available to download. Check it out here. This week Nick, Terry, and Mike have returned from their brief hiatus with an all new show. They discuss the latest News from all around the Star Trek Universe, including: Products, Games, Technology, Movies, Fan Productions, and more. Additionally, they discuss television and the upcoming season and their thoughts on the recently released finale in Star Trek Online’s Iconian War: Midnight — spoilers; you’ve been warned.
After introductions, they start off wishing Terry a belated happy birthday. Before getting to anything else, since they forgot to mention it last time, they sent well wishes Aron Eisenberg who is living with Kidney disease and is on the donor’s list for a new kidney. Terry reminds everyone to please consider becoming an organ donor. Nick suggests using #Giving, but for other organ donating reasons.
Nick has drill this weekend. He talks about how some people are able to bank drill time. He also mentions what happened to last week’s show. They took the time off because of all of the content we released from STLV. Nick thanks Janet and Steve for their hard work. Mike hopes Steve feels better soon, since he’s been under the weather. Nick, then, goes on to share about his surprise visit to Janice, which also occurred last weekend. He goes on to describe his schedule for the next several weeks: which includes Hartford Comicon and Baltimore Comicon.
While Terry goes to grab some coffee, Mike talks about what he’s been doing this week. He’s written a little bit, including outlining a few Foundry missions. He mentions Bill and Ted’s Messed Up Trek mission. This week was Star Trek’s 49th Anniversary and has rewatched the entire series except for the final episode: These Are the Voyages. Finally, he’s played Zelda this week along with Star Trek Online’s new mission and conclusion to the Iconian War: Midnight. It caused some serious conversations and debate in our chat.
Nick takes a minute to talk about the Klingon Lesbians and the kerfuffle it caused. Nick talks about the commercials portraying mixed groups of people (people of all races). Terry doesn’t like it when it appears forced. They would have preferred it, if the commercials didn’t always have to show mixed groups, but rather had more realistic diversity in their ads, such as an asian or black family having dinner together at Olive Garden. Nick brings it back to STO. The problem with the lesbian couple was the fact that some gamers don’t read and had completely missed the fact that these characters and their relationship were preexisting within the game. Terry, then, points out the shit that went down this week over the latest Star Wars book that featured a gay couple. She talks about it and the crap that some “fans” are doing to it on Amazon. Nick pities gamers that don’t read, because the STO mission: Midnight was lost on them. Returning to Nick’s point about diversity in television, Mike mentions that for him, the commercials work, because of where he lives and the diversity that lives in and around his community. Nick’s issue stems to the context of the ad. They all agree. Nick asked another question about the Admiralty system and his ships used for the system. He’s cleared out his bank by equipping his spare ships with the various sets that he’s collected and is not using. Terry hopes Al feels better soon.
They move on to this week’s Star Trek News. They start off with the Kansas State half-time show with the marching band’s apology for their Enterprise attacking the mascot of their rival. Apparently, some people thought it was portraying a lewd act. Nick sends them kudos for attempting it. He saw the Enterprise and not the penis that some people had seen. Terry talks about sports rivalries from high school. Nick mentions the comedienne that was fired for her body shaming rant. Terry says that she wasn’t fired, because she was only in consideration. The film was anti-body-shaming, and her rant went against what they were trying to do. They talk about sports team owners getting in trouble for talking about their personal views publicly, while Jay-Z seems to be immune from it when his lyrics essentially does the same thing.
Continuing with News. Terry asks Mike what was interesting about the Rebooting Star Trek for modern television. They talk about advertisements in media before Mike points out what he found interesting in the article. He goes over some of the highlights from the article that identifies what makes for good Star Trek and what failings to avoid. One of the big points was in regards to Science Fiction Writers, or at least, opening up the writer’s room to outside sources. Other points Mike appreciated was about morality plays, exploration, and providing hope. It’s stuff we’ve talked about, but it was nice that everything was together and contributed to a successful, new Star Trek series.
Shifting gears to Movie news, Terry asks if everyone has seen the latest Omaze video that showed a bust of a potential new alien being introduced in the new film. Some people are thinking that it looks like a Dominion Jem’Hadar. Nick thinks it could be miss direction. Mike points out that it could be a case of parallel evolution or development — another race that just looks like a Jem’Hadar. They save the Federation as an Evil Empire post for later, since Nick wanted to talk about it this week, as it pertains to STO’s Midnight.
They go into the latest Star Trek Products. They begin with the Q and Guinan bar Bobbleheads. Mike thinks that they shouldn’t be smiling when together. Guinan should be giving him the cat hiss. Terry talks about the Ships of the Line calendar for 2016. More beautiful ships in this edition, including several Romulan ships. Mike points out the unique design of the Insignia class with the modular sections of the saucer. They all like it. Terry talks about the Trek decals and the new Star Trek lamps. They talk about the Star Trek urn next. Mike likes it. They talk about some of the other options available, including the Star Trek caskets. Nick mentions the KISS casket.
Next, Mike talks about the company Arx Pax, that had developed the technology used for the hover boards, has been approached by NASA to create a viable tractor beam. They are hoping to use it to manipulate and connect cubesats without risky space walks. Allen leaves for work and Nick uses a funny voice before mentioning the Ferris Anomaly and Jim Ferris. Mike mentions Jim’s DJing for Totally 70s and the fun he has had hanging out with him on Friday. They talk about Meko and Totally Hits music. Mike doesn’t have any other technology news, but Nick wanted to talk about the Fleshlight he saw in a photo of Burning Man.
They talk about Fan Productions next. They start off discussing season 2 of The Red Shirt Diaries. They sent us several clips for each of the episodes they have planned for their second season. The first season is available on YouTube. Mike talks about some of the teasers he’s seen from Season 2, which includes an episode featuring Trelaine among others. In more news, Star Trek: Eye of the Tempest is a new fan production produced by the people of Starship Saladan. Then, Mike talks about the Wall Street Journal talking about Star Trek: Continues. They discuss a variety of Fan Productions using Kickstarter to fund their projects and even points out some Batman and Deadpool productions. They discuss Deadpool. Nick sends a shout out to Rianne and Lisa Marie.
Finally, Mike talks about Pacific 201’s Kickstarter. He spoke with them this week, asking about the premise of their story, but they didn’t want to spoil it. It takes place between Enterprise and TOS, features Romulans after the Romulan War. The images are amazingly authentic. However, they don’t know much about the story, but they did release an update about the characters and their narrative style. This was the first time Terry received confirmation that the show was based on Trek. There’s a lot they could do to tease the story without spoiling it. They hope a new teaser will be released soon that will help shed some light on what is happening.
Nick talks about television, asking about the Monday night at 10pm timeslot. Terry says genre shows at that time typically do well. NBC, however, has a poor track record. Nick is looking forward to seeing Blind Spot. Allen won’t be watching the show until they get to season two. They talk about shows that go on hiatus. Mike mentions that Fear the Walking Dead went on hiatus for Labor Day weekend. A lot of shows don’t recover from these types of hiatus. Nick doesn’t think it will effect this show because it’s Walking Dead and their fans would watch it. They talk about other shows, including Sleepy Hollow, Almost Human, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., Agent Carter, and others.
Mike mentions a question he posted on Facebook asking how people would be choosing to watch a new Star Trek show if one were to be released this year. Binge watching is the current trend, but since the industry is still struggling to realize that, it’s unlikely that we will be seeing one anytime soon, until the antiquated advertising model they currently use gets changed. Nick thinks that people waiting for a second season or later before starting to watch a series will make it unlikely that a show will get that far. Terry thinks that networks that decide a show’s fate after three episodes or six episodes has to change. They have to evolve with the viewing habits of its viewers. Netflix has it right by releasing complete series all at once and allowing people to watch a show at their own pace. Advertisers and networks need to wake up to these changes. Terry believes that a new Trek show released in a traditional manner is doomed to fail. Trekkies have disposable income and are willing to throw their money at subscription services that gives them content they want and the way they want it.
Nick brings up the new Star Wars subscription box, similar to the Marvel box, LootCrate, and NerdBlock subscriptions and demands to know where is the Star Trek subscription box. Mike hopes with the new movie, we’ll get one. Terry talks about Disney’s understanding of fandom. Nick credits Disney to Marvel’s massive success and blames Fox for ruining the genre. He’s planning to get drunk and going to see Fantastic Four. Fox, CBS, and other companies could learn from Disney’s approach to take a creative risk with fandoms. She appreciates CBS’ licensing for the steady stream of new products that we have been receiving over the last several years. However, we haven’t given anything that really compares to what Star Wars fans have gotten in connection to this new, upcoming Star Wars film. Terry is jealous of Star Trek fans. Terry wants some fun stuff and wants a Star Trek Friday – Mike suggests it to be a Star Trek Tuesday. Sun points out that Corporate doesn’t really understand fandoms.
The conversation shifts to music. They discuss Toto, which Terry got to see for her birthday. They talk about it and how its perceived to be uncool to be a TOTO fan. She draws parallels to Trek fans who have for years been viewed as an uncool fandom. Nick talks about the Cure and how conventional wisdom can damage a band (brand) when they start to get popular and drawing more and more attention.
Eventually, they move on to Gaming News. Mike quickly mentions Star Trek: Timelines. They announced this week that TOS-era and Wrath of Kahn-era Uhura-s will be in game. They also released a video talking about how different flying the Defiant will be within the game when compared to other, more massive ships within the game. They are looking forward to Timelines.
They move on to discuss Star Trek Online’s new Featured Episode, and the final installment of the Iconian War, Midnight. They begin with several spoiler alerts and warnings before getting into the new mission. Mike was upset about the new mission.
Nick has a question for Mike. They talk about the Klingon in charge of this arc. Nick wonders where the growling, grunting Klingon came from. Mike points out that all Klingons have had that growling, grunting moment, but that’s what Klingons get remembered for. It doesn’t fairly represent them, but it is what people remember. There are some that are well spoken. They use Kurn, Gorkon, and Kang as examples of well spoken Klingons.
Getting back to what upset Mike about the mission. Mike talks about the Klingon in the mission, who started off gungho to commit genocide, but the next moment we see him, he’s ready to save them. Mike wanted more to see what lead to that transition. Yes, he was there for two weeks, but we really don’t know what lead to him changing his mind so dramatically.
Mike talks about the Iconian Prime Directive. He wasn’t pleased that they invited “lesser” races to come to their world, but then refuses to share anything with them. Terry and Nick talks about how visitors are not citizens of Iconian society and therefore are not entitled to their technology. Nick uses Janeway and the Kazon as examples. They return to the Klingon. Nick attributes it to Stockholm Syndrome. Mike would have liked to have seen the Iconians being generous towards the lesser races to justify the Klingon’s change of heart.
Terry was uncomfortable with the development of the Krenem Temporal device. She wanted to live and die by her ideals and is glad that they were able to finally able to do so. It’s what she loved about this episode. It was Star Trek. Nick loved the transition from heavy combat to the soft peaceful conclusion on Starfleet Academy. He said it was like the end of a movie. It had a cinematic ending.
Everyone was bugged about what Sela was doing on Starfleet Academy. Not many people expected Sela to show up with the Dominion. Terry wanted to see Sela being emotionally traumatized by the discovery that she was the cause of everything that happened in the Iconian War. Mike wondered why the Dominion were there in the past, while there wasn’t any Delta Quadrant races there. He wanted to see her in chains. He also was upset with the Iconian demands at the end of the episode. He wanted someone, specifically Sela and T’Met, to pay for everything that they had done during the war. Mike blames the war on T’met and Sela and wanted to see them brought to justice.
Terry is pleased that a diplomatic quarantine for the Iconians is appropriate. Terry loved the mission, and Mike did as well. She agreed with Mike that they should have had a little more information. Mike would have liked just one more dialog option to explain what happened to him during the two weeks. Terry agreed. Nick asks if it was Martok that had changed his opinion so quickly. Mike would have followed Martok, but if he had made 180 change, he would question it. What happened to the Klingon while he was there to make him change his mind. Was he brainwashed, tortured? Did he drink the kool-aid? What was it that made him change his mind. That’s what Mike wanted to know.
Nick talks about getting lost on Iconia. Mike had the same trouble finding the bridge to the last platform. The ramp they needed to travel on was hidden and not obvious. Overall, they were very pleased with the Iconian arc and are looking forward to A New Dawn and hope for another amazing five years in STO. Terry wants to see Sela become a blithering, drooling idiot of a mess. Nick wants to see her become the leader of the Romulan people. Mike wants to see her thrown into prison forever. Nick is in love with Jurok.
They wind up this week’s show with announcements. Mike talks about their surveys. The TOS survey has been closed, but they still need more data for the other series, especially Voyager and DS9. Please take the surveys and help them with their research. Also, the Karaoke contest is still ongoing, so get your entries in for a chance to win an autographed discography from Five Year Mission.
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Star Trek News
- Why did the Kansas State Marching Band Apologize for their Star Trek-Themed Halftime Show – http://comicbook.com/2015/09/08/why-did-the-kansas-state-marching-band-apologize-for-their-star-/
- How to Reboot Star Trek for Modern Television – http://www.techtimes.com/articles/82954/20150909/reboot-star-trek-modern-television.htm
- 5 Ways Star Trek’s Federation Was An Evil Empire – http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-ways-star-trek-federation-evil-empire/
- Pacific 201 Production Log: Character and Narrative – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1f76GQCQxzo&feature=youtu.be
- WSJ: When the Audience Makes the Cameras Roll – http://www.wsj.com/articles/when-the-audience-makes-the-cameras-roll-1441657364
- Star Trek: Eye of the Tempest – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fILyMG7b-Pk&feature=youtu.be
- The Red Shirt Diaries Season 2 Sneak Peak – The Saddest Girl on the Enteprise – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZm_hM56iz4
- The Red Shirt Diaries Season 2 Sneak Peak – The Best Engineer In Starfleet – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7bDnB3zn6A
- Complete 2016 Ships of the Line Line-up revealed – http://www.thetrekcollective.com/2015/05/complete-2016-ships-of-line-line-up.html#more
- Guinan & Q Bobble Heads – http://www.startrek.com/article/first-look-guinan-q-bobble-heads
- Trek Decals for Home and Car – http://www.thetrekcollective.com/2015/08/trek-decs-for-home-and-car.html
- Star Trek Cremation Urns – http://www.coolthings.com/star-trek-cremation-urns/
- Final Omaze Video released; Gag Reel and New Alien – http://trekcore.com/blog/2015/08/final-omaze-video-released-for-star-trek-beyond-fundraiser-gag-reel-and-new-alien-included/
- Star Trek 3 Beyond Villain: Is that A Dominion Jem’Hadar in Behind the Scene Video – http://www.idigitaltimes.com/star-trek-3-beyond-villain-dominion-jemhadar-behind-scenes-video-473566
- Tales of the War #21 – http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/PAB_sto/news/detail/9539163
- Uhura in Star Trek: Timelines – https://disruptorbeam.com/blog/entry/uhura-in-timelines
- Reveal – USS Defiant in Star Trek: Timelines – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOYNo2aNSkk
- NASA Wants Hoverboard Company Arx Pax to Build A Tractor Beam – http://www.techtimes.com/articles/80944/20150903/nasa-wants-hoverboard-company-arx-pax-to-build-a-tractor-beam.htm
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