G & T Show 217 – Beyond Trailers
G & T Show 217 – Beyond Trailers is now available to download. Check it out here. Terry has returned from her hiatus and is joined by Nick and Mike. For Coffee Klatch, they talk about her trip, getting sick, and Star Wars before getting to the Star Trek Beyond trailer for Star Trek Movie News, General News, Gaming News, Product News, and finally Convention News. They also do a double helping of 50 For 50 and discuss four episodes of Star Trek as chosen by our audience surveys.
After introductions, they jump right into this week’s Coffee Klatch. Terry starts them off by discussing her illness and her trips to New York and Las Vegas. During her stay in New York she had to attend an insurance conference. Allen came out for the weekend and they got to see some shows. She shares some of those experiences. Then, she had a speaking engagement in Las Vegas, which is where she caught the plague. On the flight home, she had a plague buddy. Upon return, she went to the doctor and was loaded up with meds and spent the next five or six days in bed. She’s on the mend now. She apologizes to everyone that donated and won a prize during our 24 Hours of G & T and has not received them yet. She will be shipping them out this weekend.
Nick mentions Star Wars, which prompts a discussion of the film. Terry has not seen it yet, because she didn’t want to cough all the way through it. Nick and Mike both saw it. Terry is pleased that people have not revealed spoilers. Keith DeCandido posted on Facebook about the lack of spoilers and story points. Nick shares his experiences with the film. Daisy Ridley owned the screen in his opinion and Mike agreed. He rates it in the top three of the Star Wars films. Nick was pissed when he left the theater about JJ’s love for Star Wars and the disservice he did for Star Trek. Terry wants to discuss the Star Trek trailer that came out this week, but he wanted share his thoughts on the film.
He prefaces what he’s about to say with the fact that he really liked the film and wants to see it again. However, he saw that film a long time ago and didn’t see anything really new. It’s the previous Star Wars films, Star Trek, Indiana Jones, and Lord of the Rings. Nick defends the film that its mythology was designed to be that way. He expounds on it. He wants to see it again, but he would have liked to have seen something new, something added to the mythology. Nick points out the quest that they are on throughout the movie is a something new to it. Nick says that JJ’s use of practical effects paid off. He even went on to say that he creates beautiful films. Terry talks about how jealous Trek fans may be.
Nick mentions the cameos that have come out from the film. They are surprised by some and discuss some of them. Pegg’s role surprised them. Terry talks about Phineas and Ferb and May the Ferb be with you. Simon Pegg voiced C3PO in that episode. Nick mentions the Family Guy spoofs of the Star Wars films. He hopes Disney allows Seth MacFarlane to create a parody of it. Returning to the film, Nick talks about the couple sitting next them and the Harlem movie viewing experience. When Mike went, one person showed up dressed as Rey. She was the only cosplayer at the opening night.
They talk about the trailers they had for the film. Nick and Mike had different trailers. Nick watched IMAX and got the Star Trek Beyond trailer. Mike watched it in 3D on opening night and did not. The Warcraft trailer was Nick’s highlight. They talk also talk about the Independence Day sequel trailer. They also talk about Batman vs. Superman, Jungle Book, Kung Fu Panda, and Captain America: Civil War. They spend several minutes talking about Captain America.
They move on to the Star Trek Beyond Trailer. It was leaked by a German group and Paramount acted quickly and released the official trailer hours later. Briefly, they discuss the problems that studios have and have yet to embrace the advent of modern technology. Nick praises Mike for his commentary this week about the trailer. Mike mentions the fan dance he wrote this week that described the trailer as perfectly aimed for its intended audience. The trailer was engineered to appeal to the people sitting in theater watching Star Wars and it was was successful in doing that.
Pegg and Lin talked about it the next day and they didn’t like it. They even revealed a lot of details about the film including its themes, character development, and more. Terry explains the role the director has in the film production and how trailers are put together by Paramount marketing department. Paramount wanted the Star Wars fans as well as the Fast and Furious fans to become fans of Trek. Lin was disappointed that Paramount decided to use the motorbike shot. Nick mentions the Wrath of Kahn trailer and the reaction people had for it at the time.
Mike thinks that we will be getting something very Trek out of Pegg and Lin. Nick mentions that JJ continues to apologize for more of the mistakes made in Into Darkness. Returning to the new trailer, Terry mentions that the Enterprise was destroyed once more. Mike joked that its destruction will force Kirk into an old style Constitution class ship as a result. Terry outlines what we saw in the trailer. She thinking watching each of the characters deal with their challenges will be fun. Terry was disappointed by the lack of character development. Mike mentions that it was designed for Star Wars so it had all of the action, but they had tidbits to suggest that there is much more to it, such as the character moment with Bones and Spock, the comedic line at the end, and a line spoken by the villain that hints at the film’s theme. Lin and Pegg confirms alot of it in their recent interviews. Mike thinks it’s interesting if they can pull it off. Terry is more hopeful about this film than the previous two.
They talk about the villain, the new species, and their method of attacking. Mike points out that it is not Jem Hadar. The bust that was carried across the screen during one of the Omaze videos was a red herring. Terry mentions the music used the film. It adds to Kirk’s character because it reference’s the first movie as well as calls back to the historian aspects of his character as we had seen in other films. It helps the audience connect with those characters. Tom Paris in Voyager was another character that did this well. Terry has done it with her own writing. She talks about Beth in her stories. Mike had showed the trailer to his nephews. They had never heard Sabotage before and they immediately loved it and as a result loved the trailer just that much more. Now they want to see the film even more so now.
Someone in the chatroom mentioned that Die Hard is not a Christmas movie. They talk about it. Mike has added it to his playlist of Christmas movies he’s watching this year. He’s currently in the middle of Scrooged. Nick mentions the Sabotage Battlestar Galactica video. They also talk about The Nightmare Before Christmas as being a film for the entire season, rather than for either Halloween or Christmas. They momentarily return to the trailers from Star Wars to talk about the game trailers that were included. Nick got Halo, Mike got something with a flying dragon thingy. Terry talks about the Warcraft trailer and the emotion that the Orc characters express. She’s amazed by the evolution of the motion capture technology.
They move onto this week’s 50 For 50. They start with #46, Deep Space Nine’s The Visitor. Mike reads the comments Janet had sent him regarding her thoughts on the episode. They talk about Tony Todd in the role. Terry runs through the synopsis of the episode. It gets them in the feels every time because of the relationship between Jake and his father.
Nick praises Nog’s role in the episode and takes a moment to talk about Aron’s GoFundMe. He needs a new kidney. The fundraiser is help them with the costs. Mike points out that as of last night, they have reached their goal, but they are going to keep the fundraiser goal going to raise more money. Everything earned after their goal will be donated to a charity supporting organ donors. Support them. Terry talks about Aron’s condition. He will be receiving a new kidney on December 29th and have taken the opportunity to help others. Nick, then, mentions the member of our family, Mav, Tom Cruz, and the issues he’s having. He has a GoFundMe as well and needs assistance. Please help and support him as well.
They return to The Visitor. It’s a pure Trek story. They don’t mind the Time Travel and Reset Button tropes used in the episode. Mike thought the science used for it worked better than some other episodes we’ve seen. Terry appreciates the character study of Jake, but found that he was a good kid, but his teenage angst was a detriment to him until this point. After this episode, Jake develops into a more interesting character.
They move onto #45: Enterprise’s United. Mike shares Janet’s thoughts. Terry didn’t have much time to watch from bed. Mike runs through a quick synopsis from memory. Terry loves the episode. We learned so much about the Andorians and the Tellarites. The episode was made for Jeffrey Combs. They talk about it. Nick calls it, Enterprise’s Amok Time. They appreciate the episode for showing how these very different species were able to work together in order to eventually form the Federation. Terry appreciated the introduction of the Aenar. She points out the First Contact line about the number of members in the Federation, most of which we never got to see on screen. Tripp and Reed were stuck on board the Romulan ship. The show was very complex and had a lot going on. This was the second episode in a three hour mini-arc, which could be described as a three hour movie. They talk about Talas, as played by Molly Brink.
They move onto #44: Enterprise’s Awakening. Mike reads Janet’s thoughts. Terry provides the synopsis of the episode. They talk about Surak, katras, the Kir’Shara, the ramifications of Admiral Forest’s death, and the evolution of Vulcans. They talk about the split and evolution of Vulcans into Romulans. Mike would have liked to have seen, if the series continued on, that another group of Vulcans split off from the Vulcans because of the discovery of the Kir’Shara, drawing parallels to what the Romulans must have been thinking when they went their own way. Nick talks about T’Pol’s mom, Joanne Cassidy.
They move onto episode #43: TNG’s Chain of Command Part 2. Terry shares the synopsis of the episode from memory. Picard is being tortured by Gul Madred. Mike shares Janet’s thoughts on the episode. Terry did a lot of research on this episode, since she wrote Retribution because it dealt with torture. The writers had changed the script to show that he had broken from it. Although Picard had gotten help dealing with what he had gone through before he too became an abuser, but the effects of the torture can be seen in First Contact. Nick talks about Jellico and Riker. Jellico was a specialist in dealing with Cardassians and was tasked with preparing the Enterprise for a possible war with them. It showed how spoiled the Enterprise crew really was. Riker breaks the chain of command and suffers for it to a degree, but never really gets punished for it. Nick points out that if Jellico was in the wrong, Data would have pointed out his mistake. They appreciated that Jellico put Deanna into a uniform. Mike points out that the episode points out the dangers of complacency. Riker fought against change. Nick talks about how the army changes commanding officers every couple of years. Mike shares some of his hopes for the new series. That people will either die off, get promotions, or move on to different postings to help keep things fresh and moving forward. They address a question from the chatroom, which sparks a debate about whether Starfleet is a military organization, a police department, or something else.
Next week, there will not be a new show. We will return next year on January 3rd. The next two episode of their 50 for 50. The only person to blame is yourselves. #42 is Voyager’s Scorpion Part 1. Scorpion Part 2 will not be discussed since it came in the 57th position. #42 is DS9’s Favor the Bold. These episodes were selected by our listeners that took time to vote in the surveys. They send a huge shout-out to Allen for putting all this together. Allen provides some information on what led to Scorpion’s Part 1 didn’t make the top fifty. It came down to one person voted and gave it 4 stars for the episode instead of 5 stars. That’s how tight the voting came. Allen shares some details on the voting.
They talk about sports. Nick expects his team to lose. He asks if Allen’s got his 12th man flag running. Mike explains that G & T celebrates Trek-mas in July just before STLV, where we exchange gifts among other things. He doesn’t know how he’s going to out do the gift he gave Allen last year.
They move into Gaming News. Terry wanted to talk about Star Trek Online, since she hasn’t been in game for a while. Before getting to it, they talk about Thanksgiving food and what happened to Nick’s grandmother. They celebrated her 98th birthday and had fallen down and got a hairline fracture in her pelvis. She wanted to know if there was anything new going on, since she hasn’t finished the final run of the last featured episode. Nick hasn’t been in the Winter Event. He has been doing the Admiralty and Doff system. Mike has 30 specialization points he can’t spend. Mike still wants a mobile app that has crafting, doffing, and admiralty in it. Mike talks about the Breen ships rewarded from the Winter Event. The past ships are great in the Admiralty system. The chatroom points out that there is still time to earn the ship if you start now. They talk about the Admiralty system and the possibility of doing an short episode about it at some point. Shuttle should also be used as well in the system. There hasn’t been any new featured episodes that have come out lately. There’s been a story about the Na’Kuhl.
Terry shares a link for Product News. WeLoveFine has some new Star Trek women’s wear available. They start winding down the show by wishing everyone Happy Holidays. She then quickly mentions the latest convention news, that she has received confirmation and receipt for one of the booths for Star Trek Las Vegas 2016. They talk about the staff at Creation and how they are understaffed for all of the different events they put on every weekend all over the US. G & T will have a presence at the convention this year. Also, the General Admission tickets are now on sale. Everything is selling out, so get your tickets now.
Nick thanks his cohosts for all of their hard work. 24 hours of G & T was the crowning event on the year. He goes on to thank Steve and Janet for all of their work with the show. They also thank their listeners for their continued support and dedication. Terry promises to send out the prizes as soon as she can. Nick sends shout outs to everyone that supported us throughout the year, including TrekRadio, Club602, and so many more. Mike is looking forward to 2016. BLB has a lot of new projects in the work for the coming year. Nick reminds everyone to check out GBAddress. Mike is hoping to get some of their audio dramas back on track, since life has taken over and kicked his ass this year. Terry puts out a call for anyone interested in volunteering and getting involved with BLB and help us with audio editing, with social media, and other things. They are expanding and could use the help. Nick warns everyone that Mike can be dictatorial. Mike asks what they are looking forward for the coming year. Nick runs through the list of conventions he’s looking forward to. Terry is looking forward to STLV. We send our thanks to Janice for helping to cover some of these conventions. Mike thanks Jen Usellis for agreeing to be our correspondent covering conventions in the midwest. We send shout outs to Adrianne. She’s a rock star now. They miss her. They talk about some of the fan productions they are looking forward to. Mike is going to be so broke with all of the products coming out. It’s going to be a huge Star Trek celebration for 2016. They will return next year.
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- G & T Show Fan Dance – Star Trek Beyond Trailer Is Perfect – http://www.gandtshow.com/fan-dance-star-trek-beyond-trailer-perfect/
- The Gettysburg’s Address – http://www.gbaddress.com
- A New kidney for Aron GoFundMe – https://www.gofundme.com/aronskidney?utm_source=internal&utm_medium=email&utm_content=cta_button&utm_campaign=upd_n
- Tom’s Recovery Fund GoFundMe – https://www.gofundme.com/tomsrecovery
- Star Trek Online: Post War #6 Na’kuhl – http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/9700743-star-trek-online%3A-na’kuhl
- We Love Fine: Star Trek Apparel – http://www.welovefine.com/feature/star-trek.html
- Star Trek Beyond – Trailer – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRVD32rnzOw
- TrekCore: Breaking Down the Star Trek Beyond Trailer – http://trekcore.com/blog/2015/12/star-trek-beyond-trailer-breakdown/
- Star Trek Beyond Story Teased by Simon Pegg and Justin Lin – http://www.inquisitr.com/2628309/star-trek-beyond-story-teased-by-simon-pegg-and-justin-lin/#utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheInquisitrEntertainment+%28The+Inquisitr+%C2%BB+Entertainment%29
- Justin Lin Reacts to Fan Criticisms of Star Trek Beyond Trailer, Wants to Deconstruct Trek – http://geektyrant.com/news/justin-lin-reacts-to-fan-criticisms-of-star-trek-beyond-trailer-wants-to-deconstruct-trek?utm_source=sumome&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=sumome_share
- Director Justin Lin on Star Trek Beyond’s Themes – http://www.thetrekcollective.com/2015/12/justin-lin-sounds-like-he-knows-his-trek.html
- Simon Pegg Asks Fans to Hang In there, There’s more star trek stuff ahead in star trek beyond – http://trekcore.com/blog/2015/12/simon-pegg-asks-fans-to-hang-in-there/
- George Takei’s Take on the Star Trek Beyond Trailer – http://www.thefederationtimes.com/george-takeis-take-on-the-star-trek-beyond-trailer/
- How Star Trek Beyond Questions the Federation’s Philosophy – http://io9.gizmodo.com/how-star-trek-beyond-questions-the-federations-philosop-1748217974?utm_expid=66866090-68.Fycr7CNTRMO9chDASrU7Hg.0
- Star Trek Beyond Directon on Avoiding Plot overlap with Star Wars: The Force Awakens – http://cliks.it/click/a9apE
- Simon Pegg Shoots Down that Less Star Treky Quote, Spills on New Star Trek Beyond Story Info – http://trekcore.com/blog/2015/12/simon-pegg-shoots-down-that-less-star-trek-y-quote-spills-on-new-star-trek-beyond-story-info/
- New Filming photos from Star Trek Beyond’s visit abroad to Dubai: Possible Spoilers – http://trekcore.com/blog/2015/12/new-filming-photos-from-star-trek-beyonds-in-dubai/
- Galactica: Sabotage Video – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoQ0bqsJSJ8
- Warcraft Trailer – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH_AEWxvshE
- Creation Entertainment’s General Admission Weekend Package Now Available – https://tickets.creationent.com/showhall/index/index/shownumber/STA5016/itemnumber/TKT-GA-WE*/
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