G & T Show 219 – Shipload of Trek News
G & T Show 219 – Shipload of Trek News is now available to download. Check it out here. Nick is M.I.A. so Terry and Mike continue with this week’s show with a little help from Janet. Their discussion of the latest happenings in and around the Star Trek multiverse centers around Product News, General News, Gaming, Books, Movie, and Television News. They also talk about the Axanar lawsuit for their Unofficial Productions segment. With Nick missing, they postponed this week’s 50 for 50 until next week and add two more episodes to next week’s discussion. Don’t miss this week’s show.
After this week’s introductions, they jump into this week’s Coffee Klatch. Mike starts them off. His brother and sister-in-law are in Chicago visiting sick family, so his nephews have been staying with him all week and it has been absolutely bonkers. Janet has looked at the syllabus for the upcoming semester and has begun panicking over the amount of reading required. Terry states that she doesn’t have the patience to go back to school. Janet goes on to mention that the wedding blog she worked for has cut back on her hours, while the other job has picked up hours. Plus, she’s got a new book out with Beta readers that she’s doing version control on, so she’s feeling a little overwhelmed. Terry had work this week and caught up on a lot of theses. A few minutes ago, Adlai and Valentine Vidal left Terry’s house. They are moving to Las Vegas, where Val is changing law schools so he can study Tribal Law.
With Nick still missing, they move onto this week’s Product News. Terry starts them off with the Star Trek decals. These Star Trek TNG stick figure decals for your car that provides a wide range of options for a variety of families and lifestyles. Terry questioned the choice of going with Gul Madred rather than a more generic Cardassian. They then express their disappointment by the lack of targs or dogs in the collection, though Livingston the fish and Spot the cat were there. Terry’s family is represented by her, her husband, and their two dogs and is disappointed that part of her family won’t be included if she were to pick up this set.
They move onto the next product. The Mondo Tees Wrath of Khan Vinyl Soundtrack. The vinyl looks like the Mutara Nebula, while its cover art looks like Ceti Alpha. Terry would hate to put a needle on the record. Mike suggests buying three copies: one to play, another put away, and another to display. Mike wonders if the Mondo record will feature a remix of the Wrath of Kahn soundtrack. He mistook Mondo for Meco, who had released a 70s disco remix of the Star Wars theme. The price of the records have not been released yet, but it will be coming out on January 13th.
The last bit of Product News is from We Love Fine and the new Yoga gear they are releasing. They come in the three primary colors with badges. On the same page there is a Wesley sweater and Mike loves the Klingon Denim jacket.
They move onto General News. They begin with the news of the discovery of 200 floppy disks that were once owned by Gene Roddenberry. Mike talks about the challenges they faced in reading the data from the disks, which were written specifically for a custom machine and operating system that was built specifically for Gene. Although, they didn’t reveal any specific details about what they found on the disks, but they did confirm that they contained hundreds of documents. There has been a lot of speculation about the disks. Terry would love it if they possessed Star Trek Slash Fiction. Mike offers a few suggestions. Terry asks everyone to email, Facebook, tweet, or post on their forums, what do you think they found on Gene Roddenberry’s Floppy Disks.
Terry praises Mike and Jespah for all of the links they find that gives them something to talk about every week. The next article they talk about is a Newsweek article that proclaims Enterprise is no longer the Pariah of Star Trek and is now a cult classic. Mike isn’t surprised that Enterprise is becoming more accepted by the fan base. Terry provides her own theory as to why people have come around to Enterprise, and she credit’s JJ’s films for bringing new fans who have an appreciation for Enterprise since its a more modern show that is more appealing to their generation. Janet states that it dovetails with JJ’s timeline. Mike points out that it’s part of JJ’s canon. Enterprise is Mike and Terry’s second favorite series and they are pleased that it is getting some appreciation.
Mike takes a minute to mention his new show Straight Outta Gallifrey and how he has been watching the first season of the show with the original Doctor, William Hartnell. He describes it as hard to watch the 52 year old show, but draws comparison to what some of this generation’s Star Trek viewers may feel towards watching TOS. They talk about Doctor Who momentarily about how it has always been a cheaply produced show for children. Terry thinks that people watching Enterprise would be akin to Tennant’s Doctor. She goes on to describe a cycle of acceptance and appreciation for what came before it, while decrying the current show. To make her point she refers to each series and how the previous show was lauded while the current one is denigrated. The hate for the new show has already begun and absolutely nothing is yet known about it.
Mike takes them into Television News. Movie Pilot posted an article about what rules the new series have to break. Terry goes over some of the rules that should and should not be broken. They begin with diversity, which should not be broken. They hope to see more aliens on the crew along with an openly gay character, with the hopes that their homosexuality is not portrayed as a token character but as a normal thing. Terry would love to see a trans-sexual person represented, but Mike thinks that they would probably blur it by making the character alien that is trans-sexual. Terry would like to see a married Captain in a healthy relationship. Janet adds with children. Mike suggests instead of personal logs, they do letters home to their spouse or to their kids. They discuss some ideas, but stress the need to see more alien diversity among the crew. The next point and one that should be broken pertains to the interpersonal conflicts that arise between different people and of different species. Terry talks about Titan and what she loves about the book series. She talks about an insect woman on the crew that hates men because her species eats their males after mating. Enterprise did a good job with showing the tension that arises from different people and cultures trying to work together. Mike offers an idea to James Swallow for a future Titan novel. Mike brings up one more point from the article regarding the focus of the show always revolving around the Federation bridge crew. TNG’s episode First Contact was successful in showing the perspective of an alien crewman, while Lower Desks and several episodes of Voyager allowed us to know some of the crewman that worked on the ship.
Terry asks what their biggest fear for the new series. Janet doesn’t want a young white male captain. Mike doesn’t want to see a reboot or something they have seen before. Terry doesn’t want to see a 90210 type Starfleet Academy show. Mike offers two suggestions on what he would like to see, including the exploration of a new galaxy, or one where the galaxy map is starting to be filled in and the last bits of unexplored space in our galaxy is finally being explored. Unless they stick closer to home and come up with Star Trek versions of procedural television shows. They mention what they are expecting to learn about the new show in the coming year and are looking forward to it.
They move onto Book News. Locus Online put out their best seller list and for the media-related section, there are three Star Trek books. James Swallow’s Star Trek: Titan: Sight Unseen, Star Trek Seekers 3: Long Shot by David Mack, and Star Trek Seekers 4: All That’s Left by Dayton Ward and Kevin Dilmore have made the list month. They send congratulations to everyone. Terry mentions an article she came across and forgot to save for our show notes that stated that hard copy books were selling big during the Christmas holidays and Science Fiction books were some of the most popular books selling right now. The chat room provided a link stating that used bookstores are making a come back.
They move onto some movie news. A couple of articles came out, one with a video. Terry had not seen it, and Mike saw it earlier in the week. He described the video as being a fun watch as it visited Pegg, Pine, and Urban on the set of the movie. He doesn’t remember if there was anything really new about the film that was revealed, but he thought the video was fun and worth watching. Then, Trekcore killed the rumor that William Shatner will not be appearing in Star Trek Beyond. They talk about some possibilities of how they would have liked to have seen him in the film if he were to make an appearance, including an impromptu Priceline commercial, any role other than Captain Kirk, but possibly as Kirk’s uncle in the form of a letter from home. We don’t mind Shatner not appearing in the film as long as the story is strong.
Before jumping into Gaming News, Mike mentions that their friend Teras of Geek Nation Tours has a daughter that is reviewing TOS episodes. She’s 13 years old and is watching TOS episodes and providing an insight into the next generation of fan’s perspectives. Terry mentions that we will be getting a visit from Teras and Larry Nemecek in the near future. They should be making an appearance next week during the final hour of the show.
They move into Gaming News. Mike announces that Timelines has released a new photo of a character you’ll find in game: Zefram Cochrane. The image is similar to what Geordi described in the film First Contact. Mike talks generally about some of his experiences with Star Trek: Timelines. He’s having fun but misses his crew from the previous build, since he made different choices for this build to get a feel for it. He’s looking forward to the games release sometime this month. Terry clarifies the differences between Timelines and STO and explains that they are not direct competitors and hopes that everyone will check it out.
They talk about Star Trek Online next. There’s not a lot of news coming out of STO at the moment, with the winter event is still ongoing and due to end next week. It leads Mike to mention our listener mail with a message received from Jon in Sweden talking about the Winter Event’s Epoh tags received from the Competitive Race and can be exchanged for marks. They talk about the competitive race. Terry invites everyone to leave us a voicemail through out website.
While Terry takes a brief break, Mike and Janet discusses some of the things that would have happened in Enterprise’s fifth season if they had gotten one. Some of the items they discuss, Mike knew already. But other things were new and interesting. The first two items, Janet didn’t like, especially the idea of Shran joining the crew. Mike wouldn’t have minded it so much. Terry returns from her brief break and they move onto Unofficial Productions.
They start off by discussing the current news that came out this week about the Axanar lawsuit. Alec Peters approached them to address some of the issues that we discussed during our previous episode. We agreed to bring him on, but ultimately, he declined to appear and comment on the lawsuit or Axanar.
Alec posted recently that they have been in talks with an IP law firm that may be interested in taking up their case pro bono. Janet chimes in to discuss what pro bono means in terms from a law firm. For some states, it’s a requirement, while others are strongly encouraged to take on pro bono cases. A pro bono committee will usually examine and accept a case for several reasons, including: beneficial case law, access to the Supreme Court, good PR, or to give a young lawyer some beneficial experience. Janet offers her opinions on why a law firm would or would not take up this case.
Terry mentions that people have reported receiving emails from Indiegogo stating that the Axanar fundraiser had been shutdown pending further investigation. Mike confirmed that he did receive an email from Indiegogo stating something to that effect. Terry talks about some of the issues that Indiegogo may be facing as a result of the Axanar lawsuit. She then goes on to talk about a post from Alec regarding his salary and the non-profit status of Axanar. Mike asks for clarification on the topic since he is not knowledgeable of the non-profit. Terry lays out a timeline of Axanar looking into non-profit and the lawsuit before describing what is required to obtain non-profit status. The chatroom provides a page from Star Trek: Continues that talks about their non-profit status. Axanar could be seeking something similar. It’s possible Axanar may have avoided some of their issues if they had been set up their non-profit status sooner than they had. They don’t know if Renegades and STC have been or will be getting sued, but so far, Axanar is the only one so far that has been. Terry reiterates that having non-profit status doesn’t prevent the company to use someone else’s IP, but it may encourage and help the company get a tax write off by allowing the non-profit use the IP. They hope the best for everyone. They support all unofficial productions, even Axanar, and hope that something can be done to keep the production going. Terry addresses a few comments she had encountered.
Mike asks a question about how some people state that Axanar is true to Trek and that its story is a great one among other things. He’s a donor and follows the production closely but wonders how they know this. He has not seen a script, so how do they know that it’s true to Trek and a great story? Are they taking someone’s word for it? Do they know something that he doesn’t, despite following the production? What they have done so far is outstanding, but how do we as donors know that the script is any good. Terry mentions that there is a rumor going around that CBS got a hold of the script. Terry thinks they are going off Prelude to Axanar and the Vulcan scene, which were great, but they may not necessarily reflect the entire project. She goes on to mention that Axanar posted that Alec will not be portraying Garth in the film. The quality of the production is what has gotten the attention of CBS and Paramount, since a layman is unable to distinguish between Axanar and a licensed Star Trek product. In the next few weeks, the court proceedings should begin and more details will be made, unless and extension is requested and granted.
Mike reiterates that he is a fan of all fan productions, including Axanar and hopes that there is some way that the film will be produced but would like for it to be done so without the IP being abused. Terry addresses some questions from the chatroom about why Paramount is involved if CBS owns the Star Trek IP. She describes how each of them were split and how the rights to Star Trek were distributed to each of the companies. The topic of merchandising was also discussed and how it affected the merchandise that arose from the films and compares it what CBS is doing with the 50th Anniversary. Mike quickly talks about the lack of Rey figures as part of the various toy lines from Star Wars.
They decide not to do a 50 for 50 this week, since Nick hasn’t made it to the show yet. They decide to wait on the discussion of TNG’s Darmok and DS9’s The Search Part 1. They have also added two more episodes for next week. The new episodes are Enterprise’s Azati Prime and TNG’s Unification Part 1.
They wind up this week’s show with announcements. Terry begins by reminding everyone that we are still looking for questions to ask Dayton. Mike then mentions that Straight Outta Gallifrey will be doing a second show next week. They share their social media addresses and ask everyone to follow, like, and contact us.
- Boldly Go & Get Fit – Highly Logical Yoga Gear – http://www.welovefine.com/feature/star-trek.html
- Star Trek: TNG Family Car Decals – http://geektyrant.com/news/star-trek-the-next-generation-family-car-decals
- Mondo tees will be selling an absolutely stunning wrath of khan vinyl soundtrack – http://www.themarysue.com/wrath-of-khan-vinyl-soundtrack/
- Axanar – Casting Axanar – http://www.axanarproductions.com/casting-axanar/
- Axanar and Profit or Income or Salary or … http://www.mobys.ws/01/03/axanar-and-profit-or-income-or-salary-or/
- Kats Red Shirt Reviews – https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFubfbiEr1ZKICjdM2lDcoQ
- Kradec’s I don’t give a rat’s ass what Gene Roddenberry would have wanted – http://kradical.livejournal.com/3060245.html
- Axanar’s Captain’s Log FAQ – http://www.axanarproductions.com/captains-log-jan-7th-2016/
- Star Trek Continues Non-Profit – http://startrekcontinues.com/nonprofit.html
- 200 floppy disks belonging to Star Trek’s creator have been uncovered and could offer some surprises – http://venturebeat.com/2016/01/04/200-floppy-disks-belonging-to-star-treks-creator-have-been-recovered-and-could-offer-some-surprises/
- Enterprise: Star Trek Pariah or Cult Classic – http://www.newsweek.com/star-trek-prequel-push-science-fiction-410058
- Star Trek Enterprise: What would have happened in season 5 – http://whatculture.com/tv/star-trek-enterprise-happened-season-5.php
- Timelines: Zefram Cochrane – https://www.facebook.com/startrektimelines/photos/np.1452018927314310.1257760325/1727376130831585/?type=3&theater¬if_t=notify_me_page
- William Shatner Won’t be in Star Trek Beyond – http://trekcore.com/blog/2016/01/william-shatner-wont-be-in-star-trek-beyond/
- Pine, Pegg, and Urban talk Star Trek Beyond on set – http://www.visionarytrek.com/pine-pegg-and-urban-talk-star-trek-beyond-on-set/
- Beyond the Federation: The Star Trek Rules Which the new series just has to break – http://moviepilot.com/posts/3719606
- 3 Trek Writers are on the Locus Best Seller List – http://www.locusmag.com/Magazine/2016/01/locus-bestsellers-january-2016/
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