G & T Show 239 – Rubs Isolinear Chips On Its Skin
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G & T Show 239 – Rubs Isolinear Chips On Its Skin is now available to download. Check it out here. Nick, Terry, Mike, and Janet are joined by the Scholarly Shanna. They discuss the latest happening in and around the Star Trek multi-verse. With two big news-worthy stories coming out of the Axanar lawsuit (The Answer and Counterclaim, and Axanar’s attempt to create fan production guidelines), they spend most of the show discussing these from both Janet’s legal and Shanna’s scholarly perspectives. They also manage to squeeze in a couple of episodes for the 50 For 50.
After this week’s introductions, they once again do Coffee Klatch in 10-words or less, because they have so much to discuss. Shanna talks about her sick fish. With their speedy week in reviews completed, they move onto the big news topic of the week in Semantic Shenanigans.
Axanar issued an Answer to their lawsuit and then filed their own counter claim. Janet discusses the new filing later. Alec also attempted to create Fan Film Guidelines by conferring with many fan film productions. Most of the people and productions that Alec had invited to participated posted messages on their sites and on Facebook claiming that despite being invited, they refused to participate. Only a couple of productions did participate. CBS and Paramount will be issuing their own guidelines and don’t need the fan film community, especially Alec to dictate the terms of these guidelines. When these rules get posted, they will most likely affect all fan productions not just film and will ripple throughout all fandoms as all other IP holders will soon adopt them or some variation of these guidelines.
Before Janet and Shanna take the floor, Terry is reminded about the Answer. She was so upset at the guidelines, that she forgot the Answer. Janet goes over the Answer. Her blog post is lengthy, but she was quoting large portions of the answer and comparing it to the first amended complaint. There are three parts. The first portion is the defense, which is mostly denials. The second portion is about the Affirmative Defenses. The final portion of the document is the counterclaim against CBS/Paramount. Janet spends the most time discussing the affirmative defenses, going through them one by one.
Janet moves into the Counterclaim. They discuss some of the claims that were made within the document. Mike points out the dramatic reading of the Counterclaim that TrekGeeks created. The discussion of the counterclaim continues. For more information on Janet’s analysis of the Answer and Counterclaim, please reference her blog post. When they get to the segment on PTSD, Nick surprisingly offers a quiet rant on the subject based on his own experiences with PTSD and seeing the horrors of war first hand. He also talks about a few of the episodes of Star Trek that deal with PTSD, including Nog losing his leg in DS9, Picard dealing with his time with the Borg, and other episodes. Janet completes the counterclaim and moves into the guidelines discussion with Shanna. The guidelines will most likely not be part of this case or settlement. They would be issued separately because the people they affect are not part of this case. She runs through what happens next, including a response to the Answer and Counterclaim and then the Doe Day of Reckoning.
Janet explains why she had invited Shanna to join them and write up a blog on the guidelines issue. Shanna gives her background and her course work studying fandom. She offers an Academic and Scholarly perspective when looking at fan fiction and fan culture. She discusses her approach with her blog post and and comments about some of the items in Alec’s stated guidelines. She also discusses a few things that didn’t make it into her article because they didn’t quite fit at the time she wrote it, but have since become relevant. She mentions that there is a difference between a scholarly argument and legal one. They are different, but they are arguments just the same. Allen talks about how Axanar took it too far by wanting to compete directly with real Star Trek.
Mike talks about the failure of the fan film community to police itself. Alec wouldn’t have listened and would have done what he wanted anyway. But, if the community had come out against his actions from the get go, he couldn’t pull them them into the guideline fiasco and throw the other productions under the bus. Instead the community kept their head down, hoping that he would stand out, which he did. Shanna compares him to Trump before sharing a story about a Star Wars fan fiction writer who sold her book on Amazon and ended up getting into trouble. It had gone so long because there wasn’t much happening within Star Wars. The Axanar situation is different because of the polarization against the nu-Trek films. It allowed Axanar to go so much further than it could otherwise have gone.
Terry shares her thoughts on paying for actors, construction contractors, and visual effects. Shanna describes fanzines and how they operated their respective projects and how money was handled for them. Most lost money on the deal, despite subscribers being charged for their subscription in order to pay for paper, binding, and shipping. The conversation degenerates into Star Wars Slash with Nick impersonating Jar Jar and the possibility of Yoda / Chewbacca slash. Shanna points out that there are options to hiring professionals for fan films, and she recommends hiring students from film schools to help them gain practical experience. Favors can also be exchanged or bartered, such as taking people out to dinner. Mike takes it a bit far when he states that he knows someone who needs a root canal.
Terry thinks that the guidelines that CBS / Paramount will issue will have to cover all forms of fan productions. They will have to be objective and broadly written. She thinks crowdfunding will be dead. Janet agrees and thinks that there is a concern for donors. She goes on to say that the lawsuit isn’t about the donors. She illustrates her point through an example of purchasing a car. Shanna points out that Indiegogo and Kickstarter both earned money from these crowdfunded projects. Kickstarter might be able to weasel out of being sued. However, Indiegogo actively solicited Axanar to use their service; hence they are more vulnerable.
Nick receives a private message from an anonymous viewer in the chatroom asking what they had ever produced. They go around the table describing everything they have produced from fan fiction writers, multiple audio dramas productions, published authors, completed multiple degrees in a variety of disciplines, research projects, foundry missions, tour guides, tours of combat, multiple podcasts, articles published, self-employed, and so much more. Mike has also created the hashtag #ForTheLoveOfTrek and asks everyone to share what they do for the love of Trek, whether it is watch the shows, draw pictures, read the books, play games, or whatever it is that you do for the love of Star Trek. He wants to know how do you celebrate your fandom.
They talk about the ramifications that the Axanar lawsuit can have not just for Star Trek fandom but for all fandoms beyond it as well for podcasts and YouTubers and more. They talk about the Adult Wednesday Addams series that ran on YouTube. The show received a C & D and immediately shutdown, not only to protect themselves, but to protect their respective (Addams Family) fandom. Shanna points out that there are people that create content are different than those that consume content and how each group connects with the material is different.
They wind down the discussion and move on to this week’s 50 For 50. This week, they discuss TNG’s All Good Things and TNG’s Yesterday’s Enterprise. Before moving forward, Mike points out that the 50 for 50 list has been posted to our site. It’s incomplete, because the top ten episodes have not yet been revealed, but it does include the bottom ten episodes. They start off with All Good Things’ synopsis and discussion before getting to Yesterday’s Enterprise. Don’t miss this discussion. Next week, they will discuss TOS’s Mirror, Mirror and DS9’s What You Leave Behind.
Sunseahl in the chat room reminded them that Star Trek: Continues sixth episode: Come Not Between The Dragons has been released. They didn’t get to any of the news, but they quickly go over some of the other highlights, including that Scott Bakula and John Billingsley will be appearing at STLV. Nick warns everyone to keep an eye out for Mike on his scooter. Terry quickly runs through some of the other highlights including Product News and Book News. They hope to discuss it all next week. They thank Shanna and Janet for joining them this week. Check out the blogs they’ve posted this week.
G & T Show
- 50 For 50: The (In)Complete List – http://www.gandtshow.com/50-50-incomplete-list/
- Star Trek Fan Film Guidelines: Speculation and Perspective – http://www.gandtshow.com/star-trek-fan-film-guidelines-speculation-perspective/
- Axanar Defense Answer And Counterclaim – http://www.gandtshow.com/axanar-defense-answer-counterclaim/
- Wil Wheaton on Reddit discusses JJ’s statement – https://www.reddit.com/r/startrek/comments/4kw739/axanar_countersues_paramount_cbs_in_copyright_case/d3ih91s
- The Ballad of Alec Peters as told by TrekGeeks – https://secure-ec.libsyn.com/p/8/f/1/8f13b0c61f0a7b3a/TheBalladOfAlec.mp3?d13a76d516d9dec20c3d276ce028ed5089ab1ce3dae902ea1d06ce8333d6cf5bc7a9&c_id=11782311
- AnaMonitor – Axanar Tries to Rally Fan Films to Its Proposed Guidelines –http://axamonitor.com/doku.php?id=axanar_guidelines
- Starbase Studios – CBS General Guidelines – http://www.starbasestudios.net/cbs.html
- The Fan Film Production Statement List and Score Card – https://www.facebook.com/groups/CBSvsAxanar/permalink/1226061717405196/
- Star Trek Renegades to shoot the Ending of their Internet TV Series – http://www.she-fi.com/2016/05/25/star-trek-renegades-to-shoot-the-ending-of-their-internet-tv-series/
- Star Trek Continues: E06 – Come Not Between The Dragons – https://vimeo.com/165431813
- Murtanovoski’s Captains Water Color was created #ForTheLoveOfTrek – http://murtanovski.blogspot.ca/2008/10/captains.html
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