G & T Show 248 – There Was A Con Or Three
G & T Show 248 – There Was A Con Or Three is now available to download. Check it out here. Nick, Terry, Mike, Janet, and Allen were joined by the Klingon Pop Warrior, Jen Usellis, to talk about all of the fun they have had since our last episode. Jen attended the Klingon qep’a’ convention. And Nick, Terry, Mike, and Allen attended STLV 2016 and Critericon. They discussed what these conventions offered. They managed to touch on some recent breaking news about Star Trek: Discovery. Finally, they also teased some of the fun stuff planned for their next event, the 24 Hours of G & T. Tune in and join in the high jinx.
Introductions and Coffee Klatch
As usual, they began with introductions, including our most honored guest, Jen, The Klingon Pop Warrior. Then they jumped into Coffee Klatch and Convention News with the big question about Con Crud and who’s got it. Nick was hit with it and was home Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday. He’s not sure if it was Con Crud or food poisoning. Terry was tired and worn down but was spared. Mike took antibiotics a week in advance, during the convention, and immediately afterwards. Allen did okay, but he was barely there.
Jen attended the Klingon Language Institute’s qep’a’. She spent a few minutes on the big meeting. Dr. Orkand attended. Last year, she was hit with con crud hard, but this year, she was taking Emergen-C and using hand sanitizer and did not get sick with it this year.
Five Year Mission vs. TrekGeeks
Terry explained the show would cover their convention experiences. But first she wanted to discuss something. She teased it earlier in the week. Five Year Mission issued and served a Cease and Desist notice against one of the members of TrekGeeks, Dan “Not Guy Fieri” Davidson. We are on friendly terms with both parties and decided to have a little fun with them. Robert Reyes obtained and delivered the cease and desist to the G & T Show, as it was inadvertently left behind at the iBar. Nick asked about Robert’s red sweater. He thought Robert was on the floor of the ’68 Democratic Convention. Before reading the Cease and Desist notice, Mike mentioned they contacted both parties for comments. He read those comments later in the show.
The C & D
First, Terry read the C&D. Then Mike read the comments and statements provided by each party. He began with Andy Fark’s simple, one sentence statement. Then Bill Smith provided a full statement. It revolved around IP protection and took light jabs at a certain production. Next, Mike read the statement from Dan “Not Guy Fieri” Davidson from Trek Geeks. Janet commented on the Cease & Desist’s potential procedural issues. Then Mike continued to read Dan’s statement.
Janet provided some legal analysis of the case by citing television and entertainment case law involving Alicia Milano’s portrayal of Long Island Lolita Amy Fisher. Both parties have agreed to the court date of October 29th to resolve this issue before the court of Justice Jespah / Judge Janet once and for all. This will coincide with 24 Hours of G & T.
Star Trek Las Vegas 2016
Then Terry thanked John Champion and Ken at Mission Log for inviting a representative from G & T Show to take part in their Podcaster’s Summit. Terry mentioned some of the other people invited to attend. It was held on the Roddenberry stage at STLV.
Then Nick began his STLV experience with his trip to Vegas aboard Spirit Air. There are some issues with flying Spirit. This includes their carry-on bag policy. But, the flight back was a lot better.
First of all, there was a delay in Detroit for two hours. Nick raged against Detroit’s airport’s choice to carry Pepsi instead of Coke products at their restaurants. He also had issues with his debit card. It had to be approved daily.
However, they were glad to see him in Vegas when he arrived. He then joked a little at Gingie’s expense. The booth was set up on Tuesday and Preview night was that night. It ended right around the time Nick checked in. Nick raged against the Rio and their pre-check procedure. It was confusing since the pre-checkin line was mislabeled Cards and Keys.
Con Weapons Policy
Terry then covered the convention’s security. Jen heard it was a hot mess. There was a lot of confusion on the weapons policy. Terry wondered if there was a credible threat to warrant it. Mike pointed out that there was a threat. A person claimed they would carry a weapon for their own protection. Terry wasn’t aware of that or if there was another threat that had been directed towards creation itself.
An independent security company was brought in for increased security. It worked on Tuesday night, but it created a big mess for Wednesday morning. The line stretched more than a quarter of mile to the casino floor. The security team was wanding everyone. The Rio had to step in and tell Creation to stop it, because it created a larger safety concern. The cosplay weapon check meant a guest received a colored sticker. This could have been easily obtained at a nearby Staples.
Jen explained peace bonding at other conventions. People have to get through the first security check to get to the peace bonding area, and then another security checkpoint before the hallway where the convention’s exhibits, panels, and vendors’ room are located.
Terry missed most of this because of her exhibitor badge, but she was disappointed that exhibitor badges this year wouldn’t allow vendors to the panels. It put them into a difficult position because Kevin and Dayton couldn’t get into the panels with their exhibitor badges. Terry had to contact JVC to ultimately resolve the issue with all access passes for Kevin and Dayton.
She didn’t appreciate they were not told about the change and were unable to buy General Admission tickets. The Rio is no longer big enough to host the event. The other issue was with the press area in the convention area. Jen agreed. For the 50th Anniversary, they should have gone with a larger facility. Creation only goes to hotels and not convention centers, because they pride themselves on their promise to have a seat for every ticket holder.
Nick reminisced about drinking on Wednesday night with the team.
The security on Wednesday was ridiculous. They ultimately had to give it up. And some guests alleged the wands weren’t even on. The second line of security checked for badges, but there were still people seen without them. Plus there were scalpers selling tickets just before the first security checkpoint. Terry had never seen a scalper at STLV. Allen was surprised by the revelation. Nick mentioned the giant Delta and the secondary badge checkpoint. On the last day of the convention, Mike had to vouch for Garret Wang to get into the convention floor since he left his badge up in his room. Security knew Mike on sight and was able to get Garret in.
Brushes with Greatness
Nick told a story of meeting John DeLancie in the men’s room. Mike had breakfast with JG Hertzler (kinda) and shared the story. Nick told of meeting the regular listeners who traveled a great distance to attend the convention: Woody and Baz. Both of them came all the way from Australia. They met people from all over the world, like Johnny Snowball. They named some of the other people they saw. Terry discussed the t-shirts she kept trying to get to Jay Galloway’s wife. Nick described the convention as an ADD nightmare.
They reported on the MAC cosmetics booth. Terry described the massive booth, its special effects, and the different sections and performances. And they offered make-overs. Hundreds of people supported their booth. Mike pointed out Deyvid even got this ridges touched-up. The cosmetics won’t be released until October, but were sold at the booth. They praised the actress who portrayed Seven of Nine. The Orion dancer caught Dominic Keating’s attention. Uhura and Spock and Data and Troi were amazing as well. They took the vendors’ room to a whole other level. It was the same booth that was at SDCC. But for it was outdoors at SDCC.
Networking and Making Friends
Mike mentioned some of the people he met. He made some new friends from all over the world. They met people from Pakistan, Poland, Turkey, Brasil, and lots of other countries. He sent greetings to everyone.
Nick discussed the people who won the Sunday giveaway. They had three garbage bags full of stuff to carry home with them. Nick loved her reaction. Terry described some of the items they gave away on Sunday along with all of the autographed books. Robb Pearlman pulled the winning ticket. Mike shared a story about meeting Robb for the first time. Terry explained the trouble but it became a new-founded relationship with Insight Publishing. Terry mentioned how much fun it was to hang out with Robb, Dayton, Kevin, Terry, Paula, and JK Woodward.
Mike announced Robb, Dayton and Kevin have confirmed they will attend 24 hours of G & T.
Terry fangirled when she met JK because she loved his work. She found it great that he fanboyed when he met John Byrne. Nick humiliated himself when he met John Byrne.
Terry was in shock when she learned of another person that stopped by the booth. Mike, Janet, and Allen had not heard the story yet. Nick met and spoke with Ronald D. Moore. He didn’t get an interview with him. But TrekRadio interviewed Mr. Moore. He compared it to a surreal experience much like meeting John DeLancie in the bathroom.
Star Trek Online at STLV
They talked about Vic and Michelle, who are now engaged. They also did a great Kirk and Carol Marcus cosplay.
STO had a booth at the convention. Timelines didn’t have a booth, but they had two panels. Terry described the three stages. Creation got the two main stages and Roddenberry got the third stage in Quark’s bar. There was an issue on the Roddenberry stage. Also, celebrities played Match Game on the Roddenberry stage. Nick mentioned Rod Roddenberry for a moment.
They discussed their neighbors, such as the guy next door who sold hard cases. One of them looked like the TNG Medical kit. They also made the original DEVO hats. Some people dropped a lot of money at the convention. One booth even sold Star Trek pinball machines.
Star Trek: Beyond
They took a quick diversion to cover Star Trek Beyond. Jen watched the movie with other Klingons at the qep’a’. They talked with Dr. Okrand on the last day of that con. He provided some insight into his involvement with the film. He created the two languages used by Krull and the alien in the beginning that used the Universal Translator. Jen shed light on that process. They got the girl from What Foreign Languages Sound Like to add additional alien dialog for the universal translator alien.
Mike and Terry asked Jen a few questions about the qep’a’. It was a three-day con. They were given a lot of fun words, e. g. rainbow, season, and weather. She sung a version of Somewhere Over The Rainbow. But now she needs to go back and rewrite it with the new words.
There are new words for grass and flower. Other words dealt with time travel, such as the future, the past, and moving through time backward and forward. There are now words for body functions and parts. By the end of the qep’a’ people were making poop jokes.
Household items were also given names. There were so many new words Jen couldn’t count them all. There were pages and pages of them. At the end of the weekend, they had a Friend of Maltz ceremony. They recognized people who furthered the Klingon language. They gave out four awards. These individuals get to choose new words to be added. Jen named each of them and the words they requested, some of which are made up of several other new words. She talked about how much fun it was to speak with fluent speakers as well as the creator of the language.
Klingon Pop Warrior Performance
Mike asked if the Klingon Pop Warrior got a chance to perform. She was the MC for the Cabaret and performed Mother by Danzig, one of the first songs she translated. It was nerdy good times.
The qep’a’ will be in Chicago for the foreseeable future. Terry wanted a copy of the new words for fanfiction.
Hence Jen should be able to sing What A Wonderful World, Colors of the Wind, the Reading Rainbow theme, and many others. Therefore, Jen has enough songs for another EP, but it has been difficult to nail down her guitar player. Plus she’s been traveling. Also, Jen finished the lab coat for her Beverly Crusher cosplay costume. It will debut at Creation’s Star Trek Chicago convention. Jen mentioned the convention and the photo ops with Gates and Suzie Plakson, plus the costumes she intends to wear for each. She hoped they will be on different days.
The Roddenberry Stage at STLV
They returned to the Roddenberry stage and the big issue with one of the panels. Alec Peters did it again. He was STLV. Jen heard they were selling stuff, but Terry didn’t hear about that. However, she did see him.
There was a scheduled and approved panel to discuss the impact of Star Trek on science fiction. It was supposed to include some Star Trek celebrities. Right before the panel was to take place, the person who pitched the panel came forward. He said that he couldn’t get any of the people promised. Instead he offered Alec Peters and one other person. Peters did this before at SDCC for a Battlestar Galactica panel and Denver and a few other conventions. The panel was immediately shutdown by CBS, Creation, and Roddenberry.
Then Nick reported on the Voyager panel. He only saw one or two Axanar fans at STLV, not counting Alec and his usual group of people. During the Voyager panel, someone tried to ask a question about Axanar. It was inappropriate. No one should ask a question about another show unless someone on the panel appeared in the referenced show.
Nick wondered why Alec was there, instead of sending out perks or creating the movie. Donations weren’t used to create a movie but to buy sushi and build a studio: everything but use it for the purpose it was intended for. Terry thought he was a joke trying to garner attention any way he can by commandeering panels he wasn’t supposed to be a part of. Mike wondered why Axanar was trying to harsh his Vegas mellow. Nick said people have started using the Peters name as a verb. It came off as desperate and really pathetic. It was beyond low class and then to come off as a victim because of it.
Nick said Alec walked by the STLV booth but acted like he didn’t see it. Apparently, Axanar had their “official” panel at STLV. However, it was held in someone’s room and it was rather sad.
The G & T booth was the largest in the area. They had official Star Trek authors and artists at their table. They even had brochures for the official Star Trek Bridge Tour. Dayton got one.
Alec looked so small trying to get people to talk to him. Mike said Alec went to the STO booth. Alec sneaked glances at us, tried to hide, and then hurried over to the TrekRadio booth where he tried to convince them to give him an interview. This didn’t work. It was a low class and desperate move. It was just sad.
Star Trek Online’s Vic and Michelle
Nick remarked on the love for Vic. Vic and Michelle were not there to pitch Continues. They were there in an official capacity connected to Star Trek Online for their voice over work for Agents of Yesterday.
Further, they respected Creation’s rules. They did not have a public gathering or showing. Mike met up with the STC crew at the ibar, but it was for drinks before going to dinner together. They were there for each other and not as a group of people to pitch their show.
Nick mentioned people from Farragut were also at STLV. But they were there as fans like everyone else.
However, Renegades and Axanar were another story. Terry called out Renegades and Axanar for trying to use STLV to promote their products. It was not cool. She won’t give anyone crap for meeting up with friends at the bar and even extended that to Peters, but promoting their projects wasn’t cool.
Terry talked about Critericon. They congratulated Adrianne Grady for her work. Her convention was fandom adjacent. There was cosplay, art, and a podcast panel on Saturday night.
Nick hinted at some announcements to come later. Nick crushed on Avery, who is a cutie. Terry mentioned the podcast panel at Critericon. They debated mics. There were people interested in starting podcasts and audio dramas and the panel was indispensable for them.
It wasn’t part of the Star Trek convention but it offered alternatives such as daily high tea and more. Critericon was in a suite and stocked with food and drinks. It was a lot of fun. It was a place to escape the convention. Adrianne outdid herself. The next one will be in the Bay Area. The room wasn’t booked until later. Jen mentioned another Star Trek adjacent activity. Deyvid taught a beginners’ Klingon language panel. It was something Creation would not have offered at their official convention.
Star Trek: Discovery
They talked a little about the lawsuit, but Mike mistook discovery in the trial for the new show. He would rather cover the new show than the lawsuit. The big news that came out this week is that the main character will be a female Lieutenant. Further, it will take place in the Prime Universe ten years before Kirk and company’s five year mission. Mike was disappointed that Fuller didn’t make the announcement at STLV. The next announcement won’t be at Mission New York, either. These announcements are for industry events.
Mission: New York
Then Terry covered Mission New York’s huge guest list. Jen read off some of the names. Wil Wheaton isn’t on the list yet. Steve chimed in to say that Wil will be at Destination London. Terry specifically mentioned the literary guests at the convention. David Mack is not listed but will be on two panels and will be at the Simon and Schuster booth to sign autographs.
Jen mentioned the Fashion It So blog. They will also attend. Some of our friends will also be featured guests. It’s going to be a lot fun.
Terry then talked about the conversation with John and Bjo Trimble. They were responsible for saving Star Trek after the first season. They were wonderful people.
JVC honored the Trimbles with a JK Woodward portrait of them in a Starfleet Delta. JVC then showed them his copy of the Star Trek Concordance, which they had written. Van Citters’s copy well read and worn. Bjo loved seeing it in such condition.
Mike confessed about how he held it together when he first approached them to invite them to the booth for an interview. He was determined to get them there and it worked. Once the interview was complete, Mike broke down.
Dayton Ward totally fanboyed over meeting Bjo. Mike said it was one of his Trek Bucket list. Janet confirmed the Bjo Trimble interview will be the final one released from the STLV convention.
Fifty for Fifty Post Mortem: Guilty Pleasures that didn’t make the Top 50
Allen stepped forward. Next week, they will cover the much anticipated Guilty Pleasure episodes that did not make the top 50.
Listeners are welcome to participate and share any guilty pleasure episodes that didn’t make the list. The complete list will be posted to our site later.
Send your episodes to [email protected], post it on the forums, or tweet them at us.
Mike is going to send a shout out to the animated series next week.
They get to Announcements. STLV was great for networking. They will launch a new show featuring the lovely Janice, called Fine Detail.
The show formerly known as Drunken Star Trek, now known as Tales From Ten Forward, is now officially a part of the Busy Little Beaver family. They will be produced in Association with BLB Productions, as will Live Love Play. All creative control will remain with their respective owners. We will just provide hosting and other supplemental support services. Evie Vincent is transitioning because of the new guidelines. G & T and BLB will support her with it.
Live Love Play
Terry brought up Live Love Play. She asked everyone to check them out. One of the advantages of networking at STLV was all the non-Star Trek projects. While we focus on Star Trek, all non-Trek projects go to Live Love Play for a much broader discussion. LLP will start live streaming. Their streaming schedule will be posted this week. They will stream Monday, Thursday and Saturday at 5pm Pacific.
More Convention Highlights
Nick hinted at a conversation he had that had everyone in stitches. It was so wrong.
Then Mike quickly mentioned a highlight of the convention for him. He met with an Independent film producer and pitched an idea. The producer’s eyes lit up and they were able to discuss it for a while. Mike was pretty proud of it.
Then Terry returned the discussion to the Roddenberry Podcaster Summit. It was a great opportunity to network and share their strengths.
Plus they covered TrekGeeks. While Mike loves Bill, he has recently come to appreciate Dan “Not Guy Fieri” Davison a lot more recently. They mentioned Dan’s cosplay as Guy Fieri especially when he stood outside of Guy’s new restaurant. Mike tweeted an image of Dan “Not Guy Fieri” standing near a banner with the real Guy Fieri’s likeness on it. And people still believe he met the real Guy Fieri. It’s hilarious.
Terry said they will receive a copy of the Roddenberry podcaster summit panel to post to the site. The Star Trek podcasts do not compete with each other and that panel explains why.
Tune in Next Week For …
Mike quickly added they have voice mail but will hold it for next week. Dayton demanded Ask Dayton questions. Send them to us so we can keep him happy.
They concluded this week’s show with a quick run through of some of the fun they planned for 24 Hours of G & T. They have STO TOS Bridge crew codes and a ton more prizes available. Hence these will be given away during the event. It takes place on October 29th starting at 11 AM.It will run straight through to 11 AM on October 30th. They plan to have guests, games, contests, giveaways, prizes, and a lot of fun during the event, so make plans to join them and support the G & T Show.
Finally, on that happy note, they sign off for this week’s show. Join them next week.
- Bryan Fuller Reveals Discovery Details – http://www.startrek.com/article/bryan-fuller-reveals-discovery-details
- The Klingon Language Institute – http://www.kli.org/
- Fashion It So – http://sttngfashion.tumblr.com/
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