G & T Show 251 – Honorable Mentions
G & T Show 251 – Honorable Mentions is now available to download. Check it out here. After another short hiatus to attend Star Trek Mission: New York, Nick, Terry, Mike, Janet, and Allen are back with an all new episode of the G & T Show to discuss all of the latest happenings in and around the Star Trek multi-verse.
This week we discuss the big convention, Star Trek’s 50th Anniversary, and finish up our honorable mentions for the final installment of 50 for 50. And we cover the latest General, Televisions, Books, Games, and Products News. They even squeeze in some Semantic Shenanigans to update everyone on the Axanar trial, and mention a couple of must see videos in Unofficial Productions. With so much on board, you don’t want to miss a single moment of this week’s G & T Show.
After this week’s introductions, they meander over into the Coffee Klatch to share what they have been up since their last show. It’s Terry’s birthday. They express their warmest wishes. Last week, Nick was unable to attend Mission: New York because he had some last minute work things come up. These kept him home. Nick asks about the current Mirror Universe event in STO. It’s been going on for a couple of weeks and will be ending in a few days.
Janet spent the week getting x-rayed. After Mission: New York, she went to her to orthopedist because of her bad knee and other issues. Terry shares a photo of her new shirt from Mission: New York. Mike played a bunch of games and has finished all 85+ tasks in STO. He has since started playing all of his characters to grind dilithium. He also got his commission back from J.K. Woodward. And he couldn’t have been more pleased with the way it turned out.
Allen worked, but he also spent a couple of hours kayaking on the Rio Grande. Nick did something that could have an impact on the show: he applied for new jobs abroad in Japan, Italy, and Germany.
With all of the news and Mission: New York, some of the links will have to be relegated to the show notes. In addition, they tackle the latest news about the Axanar lawsuit with some Semantic Shenanigans. Subpoenas have gone out for depositions scheduled for November. Documents have most likely been exchanged already. People will be traveling to California with documents and will be asked a variety of questions to provide additional information for the case. We may not see any of the depositions testimony in public unless some pages are attached to future motions. Anyone subpoenaed should have their own attorney to ensure they do not incriminate themselves or risk becoming another defendant.
Axanar and Propworx
Furthermore, Axanar donors received email messages from Propworx. It seems like this is either SPAM or potential proof of commingled funds. Mike points out that Alec had mentioned how important the mailing lists from the fundraiser were to him. And we are now seeing why.
Janet says no one signed up to receive messages from Propworx when they donated to Axanar fundraisers. This presents a problem especially when they are being sued. It points to possible commingling of funds and illustrates the importance of a comprehensive accounting of the books.
Terry says the case is not going away and wonders if it will be pushed back further if depositions are scheduled for November. Nick wants to attend to encourage and deride the various participants. While Terry wants to watch the proceedings, Janet wants to come out of retirement to conduct the depositions.
In addition, they touch on this week’s announcements. First up, Mike notes several interviews and blogs were posted, including: STLV50’s Bjo Trimble and the Mission New York’s Star Trek: Bridge Crew Interviews. Plus we posted the Product News Roundup and Star Trek Timelines 50th Anniversary announcement. We also posted the J.K. Woodward Commission, and the Star Trek Mission New York Report Card. Check them out.
For Book News, they start off with Trek Collective’s post about the announcement from Mission New York. So the Star Trek: Discovery novels and comics will be released concurrently with the new series. Hence Dave Mack will be the Star Trek author for the Discovery stories, while Mike Johnson will be taking the lead for IDW on the comics front. And Kirsten Beyer, who isn’t busy enough as it is, will be the liaison between the Discovery team and these writers. Kirsten will continue writing Star Trek: Voyager novels in addition to the Star Trek: Discovery series. Furthermore, she will coordinate with Mack and Johnson on the show’s supplemental content. In addition, Terry talks about meeting Kirsten in person.
Dayton Ward tweeted about a new travel guide. Terry mentions the Vulcan Travel Guide. And Mike had seen something about it a couple of weeks ago. So he is pleased to see official confirmation from Dayton about an upcoming travel guide about the Klingon Empire.
Product News will be released in a monthly blog. However, they touch on a few key exciting items from this week. Nick jokes about Trek-colored condoms. Mike is excited about one of the products in particular. Terry jokes it’s the tulle dresses. Mike replies with another joke that it’s the Enterprise rocker. But, he gets serious when he starts talking about the Bluetooth TNG Com badge. ThinkGeek is releasing the exclusive product. It utilizes technology similar to the TOS Communicator.
The Roddenberry Vault
Especially relevant, Terry talks about the Roddenberry Vault.
After Majel Roddenberry died, Rod and Trevor went through her stuff. And they came across 150 canisters from TOS with cut scenes and alternate angle shots. While some of the film didn’t survive, what did is now available in the Roddenberry Vault DVD and Blu-rays. This is courtesy of the Okudas. They managed the project.
The Roddenberry Vault will feature an episode with alternate content spliced in. One example unveiled at STLV was from the episode Who Mourns for Adonais. This one featured the alternate ending where the woman on the bridge announces she is pregnant. These are episode changing scenes people never knew existed or had only heard about in passing. The first volume will feature twelve episodes, but there are still dozens of canisters not even touched yet. This footage truly has never been seen.
Next, Nick shifts the conversation to ThinkGeek’s 50th Anniversary video: Corgi Trek. Terry loved the Scotty. They discuss the 50th Anniversary. In addition, BBC America has been running a marathon of the first two seasons of TOS. Terry watched Space Seed, and this led to her tweet. She said it was the first time she had seen the episode in its entirety. Terry had only seen the end of the episode. They discuss her thoughts on the Kirk and Khan’s douchey relationship and how stupid McIvers came across. Scotty and Uhura weren’t in dress uniforms, although Kirk, Spock, and McCoy were.
They discuss Sarek. Nick wants Dayton and Kevin to write a novel including Sarek and Amanda. Before completely shifting gears to Star Trek: Discovery and Television News, Terry asks everyone to head over to TrekGeeks and check out the episode they made with listener Trek memories for the 50th Anniversary.
Star Trek: Discovery
Terry goes over some of the news already announced. For instance, the show will take place ten years before TOS, and it will feature a female lead called Number One. Amanda Grayson may make an appearance, and the touchstone TOS episode is Balance of Terror. They clarify what a touchstone is and the importance of the Romulans in Star Trek. However, Mike was under the impression that the Romulans had been dormant for about 50 years before that episode. In truth it was from TNG. And then they speculate what will be seen in the new series. Nick talks about how much stuff happened during the Cold War which didn’t come to light until recently and thinks that the new show may explore some of those contacts.
Nicholas Meyer talked about Discovery at Mission New York. When a fan expressed her concern for the new show and started dictating must haves, he was blunt and said the fans don’t really know what they want. This is because art is not created by committee. Nick expresses how there are groups of fans that have different things that they love and would like to see in a new Trek. But the people behind the new series are professionals and know what is best for a new series. After all, Meyer was responsible for saving Trek once before with Wrath of Khan. Fans have to trust them.
Furthermore, the fans killed Enterprise because of their bickering over what is supposed to be Trek. Nick goes on to talk about the new films. People that don’t give them a chance are missing out. Meyer doesn’t pander to fans. There’s a difference between placing Easter eggs and pandering and Mike thinks that for Into Darkness, they were pandering to the fans in their attempt to include some Easter eggs. Meyer knows how to strike the proper balance. Terry has to give Alex Kurtzman due respect for knowing his limitations and what is at stake. As a result, he is building the best team he can to give us the Star Trek series this generation needs.
Ad-Free Option for CBS All-Access
The CBS All-Access Ad-Free Option is here. It’s $10 a month, up three dollars from $7. Mike notes the ad-free option comes with caveats and there may still be some ads. However, it will depend on circumstances. Nick wants to see some product placement. Hence they discuss some fun options, including Crusher handing Barclay a tube of Preparation H, or the Transporter Operator named Calgon “Taking Me Away”.
Mission: New York
Most noteworthy, Terry and Janet spend the next few minutes on their experiences at Mission New York. First of all, they got to meet David Mack. Hence Nick asks if some of their other friends were in attendance. However, most were not, because the convention was held on the same weekend as four other conventions around the country. So some people thought it wasn’t very well attended. In addition, the Javits Center is a huge location. But the panels were well attended and there were in all in large rooms. There was no reserve seating. In addition, Terry mentioned the Writing for Star Trek panel. There were people from a variety of mediums who write for Trek from shows, books, games, and comics. They also discussed the Eaglemoss panel (it will be producing models based on Discovery but could not talk about it at this time) and others.
Also, Nick asks about the cosplay at Mission New York. And some of the best were the pair of Kim Cardassian and Khan-ye West. There were some other good ones, too. Furthermore, Janet mentions Harry Mudd and Alice 27. However, there wasn’t a lot of cosplay. As a result, they think most of the big time cosplayers were at Dragon Con. However, Terry mentioned there were a lot of single-day first time attendees.
Another great panel featured the Bad Astronomer and Mohawk Guy from JPL. Their panel was about what aliens would look like. Instead, they ended up talking about some of the projects NASA is working on. Terry thought it was pretty great because people were interested in the future of space travel. She shared a picture of Garak in a tuxedo from the DS9 episode Our Man Bashir. It showed the large spaces in the vendor’s hall. Because of the size of the facility, it seemed like it wasn’t as well attended as STLV.
Demo of Star Trek: Bridge Crew
Most importantly, Terry tested the new VR game Star Trek: Bridge Crew from Ubisoft. And the game was amazing. First off, she used a truncated version of what will be released in November. In addition, she described the controls. While there are four stations, Captain is the hardest role. So Terry shared the premise of the mission she played through and how challenging it was to play. Furthermore, it was surreal to see her hand movements replicated in the game’s virtual reality. She played the Engineering station and had to handle the transporter and manage power levels for the ship and the various other stations. The game will cost $60. And it can be played solo with four NPCs, two players with two NPCs, or with four other people over the internet. There will be story missions and randomly generated missions. Terry can’t wait to play again.
In addition, Terry also played STO on console while at Mission New York. That version came out this last Tuesday. Stephen Ricossa had to help walk her through the controls and it was very obvious. So she kept walking into walls.
Janet mentioned some of the other vendors they had seen at the convention, including: Simplicity selling costume patterns, a Jeweler with some amazing charms and jewelry, and the New York Post. She got a poster of the Red Shirts Little Book of Doom with several of the images from the book.
Nick shift gears to talk about Unoffical Productions to talk about Star Trek: Continues latest episode Embracing The Winds. James Kerwin and Vic Mignogna wrote it. He thinks Terry will like it once she gets a chance to see it. The message was great. There was no Kipleigh, but John Champion and Mary Czerwinski were in the episode. And Chekov had a prominent role. Nick says something similar happens to Chekov in the Legacies series as what happens to him in this episode. Mike points out that there’s an Easter egg in this episode. And it establishes something Kirk and company exploit against Khan and the Reliant in Wrath of Khan. They discuss some of the other Easter eggs. Mike even offers a complaint that Nick may have thought was a benefit regarding Mary’s appearance in the episode.
Rewatches for the 50th
To celebrate the 50th Anniversary, Nick watched Star Trek V. Mike celebrated by watching For the Love of Spock and Wrath of Khan. In addition, Nick talks about The Final Frontier. While here was a lot of good stuff in the film, the studio’s constraints hurt it. He talks about some of its highs and lows. It was a fun movie.
Javits Center Limitations at Mission: New York
Before moving the show along, they talk about some of the limitations of the convention hall. There was very few food choices. Mike suggested bringing in some food trucks to provide food for the attendees. However, the booths were larger than at Vegas. Terry describes the size of the booths at Mission New York and specifically the booths that STO, Timelines, and other licensees had.
For STO, players will soon be able to 3D print their in-game ships and get a nice model. Nick is looking forward to getting the Sovereign Gettysburg-G created. There were also book sellers actually selling books. Terry liked the vendor’s room experience so much better than what Creation is able to do with STLV. Almost all of the vendors present were licensees. However, the mom and pop booths were missing. There were very few people there who fit that description. Janet also picked up Enterprise and MACO patches at the convention.
Room for Improvement at Mission: New York
Terry would have liked to have seen some non-Star Trek stuff at Mission New York. There’s plenty of room to grow. She sincerely hopes CBS and Reed Pop continues to do Missions, but hopes that they either find a different venue or make some changes to the facilities. Janet would like to see them move to Madison Square Garden because of the transportation and restaurant choices are more abundant at MSG than at Javits. Terry thinks the Javits was the wrong venue, but everything else about the convention was fantastic. People who pre-bought tickets received them in advance via the mail, so there was little waiting. There were schedules and signage was posted everywhere listing what was happening in the room. It was really well organized and she hopes Reed Pop will do it again.
Fifty for Fifty Honorable Mentions
They move onto the final installment of the G & T Show’s 50 for 50. This time they are talking about their guilty pleasures and honorable mentions episodes for Star Trek Enterprise and Star Trek The Animated Series. These didn’t make the top 50. Allen provides some background on Enterprise’s place in the survey results. The most polarizing episode was the Enterprise episode: Dear Doctor. Each host goes over a handful of their guilty pleasure episodes and some other episodes that deserved honorable mentions. There were very few episodes that overlapped, but everyone liked or agreed on their choices as to being good or fun episodes.
Mike spends a few minutes talking about the Animated Series and mentions some of the episodes that he thought deserved to be mentioned. Nick, the chatroom, and the others offer a few honorable mentions from the series. A lot of the stories were to be included in TOS’s fourth season if they had one. There were a lot of aspects from this series which appeared or inspired things in other series. Although not everyone acknowledges the series as part of Star Trek canon, it definitely has its place. The quality of the story telling is on par with the rest of TOS. If you haven’t seen it yet, watch The Animated Series. Because it is well worth it, it’s practically a series worth of honorable mentions.
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- STLV50’s John & Bjo Trimble Interview – http://www.gandtshow.com/g-t-show-stlv-2016-john-bjo-trimble-interview/
- Product News Roundup for August 2016 – http://www.gandtshow.com/star-trek-product-news-roundup-august-2016/
- Fan Dance: Timelines Celebrates Trek’s 50th Anniversary – http://www.gandtshow.com/fan-dance-timelines-celebrates-treks-50th/
- JK Woodward Commission from STLV – http://www.gandtshow.com/jk-woodward-commission-stlv/
- Fan Dance: Star Trek Mission: New York – http://www.gandtshow.com/fan-dance-star-trek-mission-new-york/
- Mission New York – Star Trek Bridge Crew Interview – http://www.gandtshow.com/mission-new-york-star-trek-bridge-crew/
- Star Trek Discovery Lead will be Called “Number One”, Meyer scripts hour two, Fuller hires co-showrunners – http://www.aintitcool.com/node/76084
- CBS All Access Launches Ad-Free Subscription Option – http://trekcore.com/blog/2016/08/cbs-all-access-launches-ad-free-subscription/
- Star Trek: Discovery Secrets Revealed at Mission NYC – http://www.tor.com/2016/09/03/star-trek-discovery-secrets-revealed-at-missions-nyc/
- Beyer and Meyer Talk Star Trek: Discovery in NYC – http://trekcore.com/blog/2016/09/kirsten-beyer-and-nick-meyer-talk-star-trek-discovery-in-new-york-city/
- Bryan Fuller Reveals Balance of Terror is the Touchstone of Discovery Story – http://trekmovie.com/2016/09/09/bryan-fuller-reveals-balance-of-terror-is-touchstone-of-discovery-story/
- Star Trek: Discovery comics and novels to launch beside TV series – http://www.thetrekcollective.com/2016/09/star-trek-discovery-comics-and-novels.html?
- Dayton Ward’s Tweet about the Klingon Empire Travel Guide – https://twitter.com/daytonward/status/774054948338151424
- We talked to the Designers who helped create the tech for Star Trek Beyond and they blew our minds – https://www.buzzfeed.com/h2/fbce/hpe/we-talked-to-star-trek-beyond-designers?utm_term=.pnp9XrkMEN#.hcMXyLvPR3
- Star Trek Beyond’s costume design – http://www.thetrekcollective.com/2016/08/star-trek-beyonds-costume-design.html?
- First NuTrek postage stamps, and US stamp release details – http://trekmovie.com/2016/08/30/everything-we-know-so-far-about-star-trek-discovery-in-one-handy-infographic/
- This wooden Star Trek USS Enterprise Rocker is a good reason to start a family – http://io9.gizmodo.com/this-wooden-star-trek-uss-enterprise-rocker-is-a-good-r-1786003889
- The Roddenberry Vault Arrives December 13 – http://trekcore.com/blog/2016/09/the-roddenberry-vault-arrives-december-13/
- The Roddenberry Vault details and previews – http://www.thetrekcollective.com/2016/09/the-roddenberry-vault-details-and.html?
- Star Trek TNG Starfleet Girls’ Tulle Dress – http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/jhti/?cpg=fb
- Anovos: Star Trek Dresses – https://www.anovos.com/search?q=fashion
- Loads of new ships announced and other Starships Collection News – http://www.thetrekcollective.com/2016/09/loads-of-new-ships-announced-and-other.html
- Star Trek TNG Bluetooth Combadge – Exclusive – http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/jmgi/
- Star Trek Adventures Announcement – http://www.modiphius.com/star-trek.html
- New Shipyards are coming online – http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/10142383
- STO on Console is now live – http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/xbox/star-trek-online/news/detail/10142482
- Star Trek Timelines – Star Trek 50th Anniversary Trailer – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLSRtBsRt8k&feature=youtu.be
- Star Trek Continues E07 Embracing the Winds – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMasSzFXaKQ&feature=youtu.be
- Corgi Trek – https://www.facebook.com/thinkgeek/videos/10154597068512074/?__mref=message_bubble
- PopMinded Issue 12 – Happy 50th Birthday, Star Trek – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mo2c5VRoasg
- TrekGeeks 75: Trek50 – http://trekgeeks.com/archives/3369
- Facebook’s Reaction Buttons Have Gotten a Star Trek-themed Makeover – http://www.mentalfloss.com/article/85862/facebooks-reaction-buttons-have-gotten-star-trek-themed-makeover
- Who Stole My Star Trek? – http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/08/opinion/who-stole-my-star-trek.html?_r=2
- Star Trek turns 50: A look back at its enduring appeal – http://www.newsday.com/entertainment/tv/star-trek-turns-50-a-look-back-at-its-enduring-appeal-1.12248802
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- The Brains Behind Star Trek – http://www.smithsonianmag.com/videos/category/arts-culture/the-brains-behind-star-trek/
- An oral history of Star Trek – http://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/oral-history-star-trek-180958779/?no-ist
- Smithsonian Channel: Bulding Star Trek Full Episode – http://www.smithsonianchannel.com/shows/building-star-trek/0/3436402
- For the Love of Spock – https://vimeo.com/181716499
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