G & T Show 265 – Telenovelas
G & T Show 265 – Telenovelas is now available to download. Check it out here. Nick, Terry, and Mike have returned to discuss the latest happenings in and around the Star Trek multi-verse. This week, they discuss Book, Gaming, Television, and General News; and the Axanar lawsuit’s settlement for Semantic Shenanigans. Don’t miss out on all of the fun in this week’s episode of the G & T Show.
Introductions and Coffee Klatch
They begin the show with Introductions, before jumping into the show. They will discuss the Axanar settlement, but for a more in depth discussion of it, please check out Semantic Shenanigans.
Mike starts off with announcements, beginning with Live Love Play. He reads a statement/press release from Ross about their work. Terry hosts Live Love Play’s feed on her twitch account. Also, Mike mentions that Ross has this new thing that they will launch soon. Terry mentions that he’s going to be a father. They send their congratulations out to Ross. Mike mentions that they will be playing D20 games soon. The O Sports Show should have a new episode out in the next week or two. Your support of the G & T Show supports all of these shows and more.
Nick has discovered a new show that he and his wife enjoy that featured a Star Trek alum called Taboo. It features Tom Hardy. They discuss Tom Hardy and the show briefly. Nick recommends it. It’s on FX.
Star Trek Discovery
This week, Star Trek Discovery announced the actor who will play Sarek on the show. However, there is another delay. It will not debut in May and a release date has not been given. Mike saw articles blaming Walking Dead for the delay. He describes Sasha on Walking Dead and why she’s important on the show. She’s a unique character to the show with no direct equivalent to the comics. Also, she’s one of the few African Americans on TWD who has survived for more than a season. Therefore, this may cause a bit of an uproar among her fans if she’s killed off. Nick finds Sasha annoying because of the Army jacket she wears with the incorrect patches on it.
Sunseahl believes the delay is only a rumor, though many sources have reported on it. James Frain, who recently played Theo Galavan (Azrael) on Gotham, will take on the role of Sarek in Star Trek Discovery. They discuss the role of Sarek and some of the actors who have played the character. Terry reads from the Hollywood Reporter the announcement of the second delay. Ross, in the chatroom, suggests that the inclusion of Sarek reveals a little bit more of the event that Discovery will deal with. Nick mentions the admission of Coridan into the Federation. They speculate about it for a few moments.
Although they are disappointed that it’s been pushed back, they hope that this means that the show will be a quality production and not rushed. Mike points out that the May deadline was arbitrary because they originally thought about television schedules and May Sweeps. That was when the premiere episode was to air on CBS before permanently moving to All Access. However, with a show on a streaming service, none of that matters, so there’s no real need to rush the show to meet the May Sweeps deadline. He doesn’t care if its delayed as long as its quality and Trek. He’s disappointed about the news, but looks forward to it.
The Future of Television Scheduling
Nick asks about schedules for television shows and wonders if they are as important as they once were with advertisers and other network considerations. Discovery has already made money with the show. Marvel and Netflix doesn’t reveal release dates until the show is done and ready for release. All they announced was the general timeframe for its release, such as 2017 or 2018. That way, they can take their time to produce a quality product. It’s only then, that they announce a release date a few months away so they can start advertising it and building momentum.
The Death of Network TV
They discuss the death of network television, which will be more like the death of radio, in which the medium will be forced to evolve into something other than what it is today. Terry thinks they will transform into a pay channel where you get to pick what you want. The radio that Nick and Terry knew growing up no longer exists.
The last time radio mattered was during 9/11, for a catastrophic emergency. Picking and choosing channels ends up more consumer friendly, because people can watch what they want. Cable companies will hurt the most from the transition. Discovery, unlike other Star Trek shows has already been funded through subscriptions instead of the much more risky prospect of producers and networks paying for the show with the hopes of success.
The new platform allows for better writing than standard network fare. Nick lists a few choices, such as the Netflix Marvel shows, The Man In The High Tower, and others. Mike states that traditional network television didn’t allow for the robust stories that the new platforms can tell. Traditional television can have threads that run through, but each episode has to stand on its own. Whereas with streaming, the focus shifts to the story rather than the monster of the week. Terry adds that shows on streaming services have to be good enough to encourage people to keep paying for it beyond the single episode or season.
Reruns comprise another benefit of the new platform. On television, the network picks and chooses which episodes to rerun and in which order, and sometimes only certain episodes are selected, so if you missed an episode, there was no guarantee that you’d be able to watch it later in reruns.
The new telenovela shows really can’t be watched out of order. Mike shares a story of recently watching Sneaky Pete. He had missed the first two episodes and had no idea what was going on for the first several episodes, until he went back and watched those first couple of episodes. He enjoyed the series but because he had missed the first couple of episodes, he didn’t know what was going on right away.
The new platform also avoids the trouble that occurred with Heroes when the writer’s strike interrupted the show. Viewers had trouble finding it and eventually lost interest. Terry talks about mid-season breaks and shows that go into hiatus. Mike talks about Walking Dead again and it’s two half seasons a year. Each half season comprises its own story, or portion of a story that gets wound up before going on break, or provides a cliffhanger to usher in the next portion of the story.
They are excited about Discovery because of the writers. Kirsten Beyer is a great writer and they look forward to seeing what they have done. Terry mentions that David Mack is almost finished with the first draft of his Discovery novel. They finish up the television discussion by comparing Married With Children and I Love Lucy.
They move on to Semantic Shenanigans and the news that the Axanar lawsuit has been settled. Axanar will be made as two 15-minute episodes. Terry says that the signs of a good settlement is that both sides move on feeling unhappy. The settlement occurred after the judge ruled on a number of topics including the removal of the redaction on Axanar’s financials. Fair use was thrown out, which made it a very difficult case for the Defense to win. Terry explains why they couldn’t proceed with an appeal. They would have had to prove that Klausner’s decision to throw out Fair Use was inappropriate while stating case law. Terry explains that they probably didn’t want their financials getting out there in the public eye. However, anything that was placed under seal will remain under seal.
Mike states that Axanar released some information to donors, stating that there are a number of things they have to do to comply with the settlement agreement and only 60 days to do it. He asks about the penalty if Peters doesn’t fully comply with the settlement agreement?
Terry replies that the settlement agreement will never come to light, but Axanar will be created as two fifteen episodes that adhere to the fan film guidelines. AP can only get 100k through crowdfunding but anything more than that has to be done privately. There are other issues outside of the lawsuit that he will have to face. Settlement agreements are contracts in front of the court, and violations nullify the agreement and tend to have big fines applied. The case would begin again with a new judge but with all of the stuff that has already been decided upon. In addition to the fines, punitive damages would be added to the damages that would have been found against them.
From what Mike had seen, they will continue to use the Star Trek actors that they have but they have to do it for free and no other former Star Trek employees can be involved with the project. Nick points out that on the Kickstarter page, a lot of people are demanding their money back since the feature film they were promised cannot be made. Terry says that this isn’t the last bit of trouble for Axanar. Semantic Shenanigans will follow up on the case, so check them out for more information about the Axanar situation.
The chatroom mentions Tim Russ and Patrick Stewart doing voice over for video games, which lead to General News. Patrick Stewart will do a voice for Emojis the Movie. People don’t like the casting, stating that it is beneath him. He’s having fun on the job. Stewart was such a thespian during the first season of TNG, but the cast got him to lighten up. Now, he has fun with his work. For the emoji film, Stewart will voice the Poo Emoji. That emoji may have started out as Chocolate Ice Cream, but it took on a life and a meaning of its own. They talk briefly about the new trailer for Logan.
Updating Film and Television
Nick wants to discuss updating or changing films or television shows and wonders if it detracts from the original content. TOS and TNG have both been updated and the theatrical release of Star Wars is very difficult to find. Terry shares a story about a friend who had seen the theatrical release of Star Wars with her not long ago and they had thought it was so boring.
Nick loves what they did with the remastered Trek episodes. Terry loves seeing both. He thinks that watching these shows and films in their unaltered state shows people what entertainment was like back in those eras. Mike points out that the updates are designed to attract newer and younger viewers. Audiences change and evolve and in order to keep entertainment relevant, it must be updated. Therefore, this could mean, remakes, reboots, or updates. But if you want to attract a younger modern audience, they have to be updated. Terry thinks that it is easier to accept updates for science fiction. Nick gets joy from seeing what shows were like back in the day. Terry gets joy from watching both.
Remastering Star Trek
The Okudas made the Trek remastering successful because they could apply the necessary love for the show to keep it true to it spirit. Nick would bring in Dayton to remaster The 6 Million Dollar Man if he had the rights.
Going back to Star Wars, the Lucas updated his films because these were things he wanted to do if he had the right technology. Terry thinks he should have waited a little longer because the technology still wasn’t where it needed to be. She didn’t like the contextual change that was made to the end of return of the Jedi. She never understood why it was the younger Anakin and not the elder. Mike offers an answer, stating that Anakin was younger because that was the last time he was on good terms with the Force. And with that retcon, Mike throws in that Edith Keeler was a temporal agent.
Terry likes having both versions, but she’s not the target audience. When Nick replies that the target audience consists of Trek fans who will be the ones buying the remasters, Mike disagrees. Trek fans may be the ones initially buying the DVDs and Blu-Rays, but they won’t be the ones to sustain it. The younger audience is. And after a time, those remastered episodes become available on streaming services where they can finally encounter the proper target audience. Nick doesn’t think that they had that specific intention. It just happened to be a side-effect of the changes.
Terry talks about the types of changes that were made. The effect changes were made to enhance and take inspiration from what was there rather than create something completely different. It was also a different thing to update a tv series rather than a film. With TOS, the story of each episode was unaltered. It could have gone very wrong.
Deep Space Nine
Terry asks about DS9 getting an update. Nick doesn’t want them to touch DS9, but Mike explains that it is different for DS9, since they were just starting to use Computer Graphics. It was how they were able to create the war scenes. Hence now, they would not need to do as much. He thinks that they should wait another decade or so before attempting it because they could do more with it. A lot of DS9 still stands on its own.
Nick wouldn’t mind a reboot of Voyager, which reminds Terry of something Rick Sternbach had posted on someone’s thread. While Terry looks it up, Mike describes his Edith Keeler Temporal Agent theory, so Nick could make his point that she was a Romulan Temporal Agent because she was beautiful, smart, and beautiful.
Terry found the post from Wayne Zachary; the post showed Chakotay’s Prayer Mandala. Wayne had watched the episode. Rick Sternbach responded that the Mandala had hung in his quarters the entire series. But it took them six seasons to develop the character enough to use it in a Chakotay episode of Voyager.
Nick recounts a story of a time he remembered something he loved from Voyager only to realize that it wasn’t from the show, but one of Kirsten Beyer’s novels. They love Kirsten’s work and are excited that she’s part of the Discovery writing team.
They quickly touch on Gaming News. Starting next week, the new season of Star Trek Online comes out. Season 12: Reckoning. Nick squirrels to tell the audience that 2017 is the year that he will be nice to Steve. Returning to STO, Terry reminds everyone that last week they discussed the design of the Tzenkethi. It should be out on the 26th. The new featured episode Signs and Portends will be part of it. Tony Todd will join Kipleigh Brown for this new episode. Mike most likely will play the new content when it comes out. Terry mentions that she and Allen had created a PS4 character. They have have issues with the camera control. It didn’t follow the ship. They have an idea of what is going on, but it could also be a bug.
They start winding down this week’s show. Terry announces that most of the gifts for the people that donated to their fundraiser have been packed and are ready to ship with the exception of posters. They are still looking for a better way to ship them out. The tubes she had were too short. They will ship later. Also, she needs a bigger box for the Star Trek Risk prize. They will be shipped out on Monday.
Gates of Sto’vo’kor and Other BLB Productions
Nick asks about the status of Gates of Sto’vo’kor. After conferring with Ross, Mike states that they will recast some roles. However, the next episode of Straight Outta Gallifrey will come out sometime next week. We have submitted a couple of Ask Daytons. They should come up in subsequent weeks when Dayton gets time to answer them. Therefore, if you have a question for Dayton, email them to us or leave us a voice mail on the website. Nick plans a Gettysburg Address for an episode featuring Dayton Ward, Dave Galanter, and John Jackson Miller about sitcoms. In addition, forward any Axanar questions to Semantic Shenanigans. This concludes this week’s episode of the G & T Show. Join them next week.
G & T Show & BLB Productions Links
- Semantic Shenanigans – Axanar Settlement Ends Year Long Star Trek Case – http://www.semanticshenanigans.com/axanar-settlement-ends-star-trek-case/
- Preview of Star Trek: Waypoint #3 – https://www.flickeringmyth.com/2017/01/preview-of-star-trek-waypoint-3/
- Star Trek At Its Best: Face of the Unknown – http://www.gameindustry.com/reviews/book-review/star-trek-best-face-unknown/
- TOS: Face of the Unknown Gets the Audiobook Treatment – http://www.startrek.com/article/tos-face-of-the-unknown-gets-the-audiobook-treatment
- James Swallow: The fuel for my book was a slow burning anger – https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/jan/17/james-swallow-nomad-paperback-career-science-fiction
- Star Trek / Green Lantern Vol. 2 #4 – https://www.idwpublishing.com/product/star-trekgreen-lantern-vol-2-4/
- Jaylah, Romulans, Green Lantern Corps, & More In IDW’s April Adventures – http://www.startrek.com/article/jaylah-romulans-green-lantern-corps-more-in-idws-april-adventures
- Your Favorite Star Trek Characters Compete On Chopped – http://culturess.com/2017/01/14/favorite-star-trek-characters-compete-chopped/
- Star Trek Titans – TNG – The Make It So Collection – http://www.actionfigureinsider.com/star-trek-titans-the-next-generation-the-make-it-so-collection-welovetitans/
- Quantum Mechanix reveals Dr. Leonard “Bones” McCoy collectible figure – https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/2658297/star-trek-star-and-royal-shakespeare-company-veteran-patrick-stewart-revealed-as-voice-of-the-poo-in-the-emoji-movie/
- Eat with style with the Star Trek USS Enterprise Sushi set – http://www.dailydot.com/bazaar/star-trek-sushi/
- Star Trek Engagement Calendar 2018 – http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Trek_Engagement_Calendar_(2018)
- Furthermore, Star Trek: Ships of the Line 2018 – http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Trek:_Ships_of_the_Line_(2018)
- Star Trek Abbey Road T-Shit Exclusively at ThinkGeek – http://www.thinkgeek.com/interests/startrek/newest/desc/0/100/
- CBS, Paramount Settle Lawsuit Over Star Trek Fan Film – http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/cbs-paramount-settle-lawsuit-star-trek-fan-film-966433
- The Top 5 Primordial Star Trek Beings – http://redshirtsalwaysdie.com/2017/01/16/the-top-5-primordial-star-trek-beings/
- Costume Designs for Star Trek Beyond – http://comicbook.com/2017/01/17/costume-designs-for-star-trek-beyond/1
- Star Trek: DS9 Documentary Underway – http://www.trektoday.com/content/2017/01/star-trek-deep-space-nine-documentary-underway/
- LeVar burton Reaches A New generation of Readers with Reading Rainbow App – http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cristy-bertini/levar-burton-reaches-a-ne_b_14221256.html
- Asteroid named after Star Trek’s Wil Wheaton: Engage! – https://www.cnet.com/news/asteroid-star-trek-wil-wheaton-wesley-crusher/
- Star Trek star and Royal Shakespear Company Veteran Patrick Stewart revealed as voice of the poo in The Emoji Movie – https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/2658297/star-trek-star-and-royal-shakespeare-company-veteran-patrick-stewart-revealed-as-voice-of-the-poo-in-the-emoji-movie/
- Star Trek: Discovery casts Spock’s Father, pushes premiere date – http://ew.com/tv/2017/01/18/star-trek-discovery-spock-premiere-date/
- The Walking Dead Takes Down Star Trek – http://www.kiss985.com/blogs/walking-dead-takes-down-star-trek
- A Star Trek Enterprise in every home – sooner than you think – http://www.thesuburban.com/arts_and_entertainment/entertainment/a-star-trek-enterprise-in-every-home-sooner-than-you/article_79490ffb-6cbb-5c41-9871-96bddd5e551a.html
- Defense Contractor is developing Star Trek-like Deflector Shields – http://nerdist.com/defense-contractor-is-developing-star-trek-like-deflector-shields/
- Microsoft Launches “Freedom Rewards” XBOX Campaign to Promote Free-to-Play Games – https://winbuzzer.com/2017/01/17/microsoft-launches-freedom-rewards-xbox-campaign-promote-free-play-games-xcxwbn/
- Star Trek Online: The Lukari Restoration Initiative Reputation – http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/10358963
- Also, STO Featured Episode: Of Signs and Portent – http://www.startrek.com/article/sto-featured-episode-of-signs-and-portents
- Star Trek Online – PC Infinity Box Update – Tier 6 Elachi Ships – http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/10355213-pc-infinity-box-update-tier-6-elachi-ships
- Star Trek Online Fiction – A Gathering of Wills – http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/10350633-a-gathering-of-wills
- STO Season 12 Queues: Gravity Kills and The Tzenkethi Front – http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/10343853-season-12-queues%3A-gravity-kills-and-the-tzenkethi-front
- Star Trek Online Kits and Modules Research School – http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/10355453-kits-and-modules-research-school
- Star Trek Online Announcing the Tzenkethi Battlezone – http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/10343833-announcing-the-tzenkethi-battlezone
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