24 Hours of G & T: Hour 8 – Women at Warp and Semantic Shenanigans

24 Hours of G & T 2016: Hour 8 – Women at Warp and Semantic Shenanigans

Women at Warp and Semantic Shenanigans took over hour #8 and talked about the Bechdel Test and feminism on the screen!

24 Hours of G & T 2016: Hour 8 – Women at Warp and Semantic Shenanigans

24 Hours of G & T 2016: Hour 8 – Women at Warp and Semantic Shenanigans

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Welcome to the 24 Hours of G & T 2016: Hour 8 – Women at Warp and Semantic Shenanigans

The tone and pace of the conversation changed, and things got serious.

Women at Warp

Women at Warp is a Star Trek podcast. And they can be found at: http://www.womenatwarp.com/. Their crew is Andi, Grace, Jarrah, and Sue. It was our pleasure to meet and talk with Jarrah and Sue.

What is the Bechdel Test?

Alison Bechdel probably had no idea how important her rule would become. We still talk about it, over thirty years after it was first articulated.

The Bechdel Test comes from an old comic strip, Dykes to Watch Out For. More specifically, in 1985, Allison Bechdel published The Rule at: http://alisonbechdel.blogspot.com/2005/08/rule.html.

The test and its interpretation spawned the Bechdel Test website.

In addition, the Women and Warp tested all Star Trek live-action series and their results are available here.

The Test

The Bechdel Test interprets media (originally just films, but it’s been applied to episodes of televisions series. And, in a limited fashion, it can probably find application within the realm of books) and consists of three requirements in order for a piece of media to pass:

  1. The film (or television episode, etc.) must have at least two named female characters
  2. Who must talk to each other
  3. About something other than a man.

And that’s it! For example, in a three-hour (e. g. 180 minutes long) film where two named and enslaved female characters discuss the quality of their chains in five seconds, then the film passes no matter how they are treated in the other 179 ½ minutes.

Furthermore, the conversation need not have any depth. This miniscule exchange would cause an entire film pass:

“Hi, Jarrah!”

“Hi, Shanna!”

Given how minimalistic and bare bones passing is (and the fact that the women in the film, etc. could have no power and be treated horribly), results can often surprise.

Because Fifty Shades of Grey passes (Anastasia Steele and her friend Kate talk about school). And Star Trek Beyond, with its five strong, self-determining female characters, does not (Uhura, Syl, Kalara, the Admiral, and Jaylah generally don’t spend any time together). Hence other tests seek to improve the results and make them more meaningful.

Two Different Tests

The Sexy Lamp Test

This test asks – could a woman be essentially replaced by an inanimate object without destroying the integrity of the film (or book, etc.)?

The Furiosa Test

And this test says your media (film, etc.) passes if it gets men’s rights advocates to boycott it.

More about Feminism in Trek and Media

One of the bigger issues arises because women are not necessarily seen as being competitive for lower-level roles. That is, nonspeaking or non-named roles. Because the arresting officer can be female. And so can the intake physician or the green grocer or the accountant in a film. Furthermore, when starlets get these kinds of opportunities, they can start building their careers. And those small roles make it possible for people to join SAG-AFTRA and, eventually, start competing for bigger and more substantial roles.

The discussion did not end there. Tune in for more!

Prizes and Winner This Hour

So the hour would not be complete without prizes and a winner! Because we always give prizes to the biggest donor for any given hour and this one was no exception.

And our big winner this hour was a tie! Both members of the Trek Geeks podcast, Dan Davidson and Bill Smith, won! The guys won the following:

There’s only one pillow, so the guys will have to fight over it. If both contestants survive the lirpa, combat will continue with the ahn-woon.

Congratulations, Bill and Dan!

And do you want the specifics? Be sure to listen!

Thank you!

Thank you so very much for listening! And we’re onto the next hour. So stay tuned!

Finally, thank you, our audience. Because you’re why we are here. We do this for you.

Show Note URLs

Finally, please check out these links for this hour!

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Jespah (Janet) is our Social Media Director. She has her Master's in Communications (Social Media) from Quinnipiac University and is one of the Klingons of Long Island. She's a retired lawyer, too.

She's also a published author (Untrustworthy, published by Riverdale Avenue Books; QSF Discovery 2 Anthology, published by Mischief Corner Books; and The Longest Night Watch Anthology 1 & 2, published by Writers Colony Press), and a prolific fan fiction writer. You can find her adding her fanfiction to our forums, or live tweeting our show.

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Janet Gershen-Siegel

Jespah (Janet) is our Social Media Director. She has her Master's in Communications (Social Media) from Quinnipiac University and is one of the Klingons of Long Island. She's a retired lawyer, too. She's also a published author (Untrustworthy, published by Riverdale Avenue Books; QSF Discovery 2 Anthology, published by Mischief Corner Books; and The Longest Night Watch Anthology 1 & 2, published by Writers Colony Press), and a prolific fan fiction writer. You can find her adding her fanfiction to our forums, or live tweeting our show. We understand that she can be bribed with pie.

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